Mad Dog 7.62 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 So I have thought this for a while, and Wags images of the new Mig 29 cockpit brought the thought up again.....does it seem to anyone else that the cockpit shadows are TOO dark? Sure seems like it to me. And I am concerned more now because I noted that in 1.5 it won't be possible to turn them off. Thoughts? 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Gigabyte GA97XSLI Core i7 4790 @ 4.0 Ghz MSI GTX 1080ti 32 Mb RAM DDR3-2133 512GB SSD for DCS HP Reverb VR HMD Thrustmaster Warthog & MFG Crosswind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fltsimbuff Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I think we should wait until we have it in-hand so you can check it out under known lighting conditions and from all angles before deciding it is wrong ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uboats Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Cockpit Shadows Too Dark? This guess is useless and would be misleading :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog 7.62 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 I did not say it was "wrong" but it is too dark for my taste in the current build and appears to continue to be the same darkness in 1.5. Sheesh. I also am not reporting a "bug", just asking others opinions. Thanks for moving the thread to Siberia. I guess asking a question is Verboten. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Gigabyte GA97XSLI Core i7 4790 @ 4.0 Ghz MSI GTX 1080ti 32 Mb RAM DDR3-2133 512GB SSD for DCS HP Reverb VR HMD Thrustmaster Warthog & MFG Crosswind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Its in the correct section, its a general question, not a bug report. if asking was verboten, the thread would be gone, not moved. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldguy Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I did not say it was "wrong" but it is too dark for my taste in the current build and appears to continue to be the same darkness in 1.5. Sheesh. I also am not reporting a "bug", just asking others opinions. Thanks for moving the thread to Siberia. I guess asking a question is Verboten. Have you tried adjusting Gamma in 1.2 to lighten them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWillis Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Indeed, try playing with your monitor set-up too. There is a lot you can do with contrast and brightness to tune things. Basically, it would seem the issue is local to your system, because it certainly isn't global. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Dragon-DK Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 So I have thought this for a while, and Wags images of the new Mig 29 cockpit brought the thought up again.....does it seem to anyone else that the cockpit shadows are TOO dark? Sure seems like it to me. And I am concerned more now because I noted that in 1.5 it won't be possible to turn them off. Thoughts? Thanks Mad dog for bringing this up. Yes Sir. I second that. I think the shadow in cockpit in general is to dark. I have played with my monitor settings. If you correct bright/gamma to fit the cockpit, the rest is to bright. So I think you are right, the cockpit is to dark. Cheers Intel I7 4770K, Evga 1080 FE, win10 64Pro, 32GB ram, TracIR 5, Hotas Warthog, MFD Cougar x2, MFG Crosswind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyforDCS Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Thanks Mad dog for bringing this up. Yes Sir. I second that. I think the shadow in cockpit in general is to dark. I have played with my monitor settings. If you correct bright/gamma to fit the cockpit, the rest is to bright. So I think you are right, the cockpit is to dark. Cheers Really? You've played the 1.5 build already? You've checked the settings for the shadows? Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtaliaA1 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) I did not say it was "wrong" but it is too dark for my taste in the current build and appears to continue to be the same darkness in 1.5. Sheesh. I also am not reporting a "bug", just asking others opinions. Thanks for moving the thread to Siberia. I guess asking a question is Verboten. Just a "General Discussion" Page. Most certainly would have brought this up if we were sitting around a table knocking back beer. I believe you may want to "Calibrate" your monitor, unless of course you have already. As to your Q. They looked really good to me in the images posted recently. I was looking and immediately thought the "Eye Candy" is as good as GTA V, My son was playing just a few minutes before I looked at the images. Edited September 30, 2015 by AtaliaA1 This was a Boutique Builder iBuypower rig. Until I got the tinker bug again i7 920 @3.6Mhz 12Gig Corsair XMS3 ram 1600 Nvidia 760 SLi w/4Gig DDR5 Ram Intel 310 SSD HDD 160 Gb + Western Digital 4Terabyte HDD Creative SB X-Fi HD Audio Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Speaker System Dual Acer 32"Monitors. PSU 1200 w Thermaltake Win10 64Bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted September 30, 2015 ED Team Share Posted September 30, 2015 WIP Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtaliaA1 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 WIP Don't "Wip" him Sith!!! He was only asking a question. This was a Boutique Builder iBuypower rig. Until I got the tinker bug again i7 920 @3.6Mhz 12Gig Corsair XMS3 ram 1600 Nvidia 760 SLi w/4Gig DDR5 Ram Intel 310 SSD HDD 160 Gb + Western Digital 4Terabyte HDD Creative SB X-Fi HD Audio Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Speaker System Dual Acer 32"Monitors. PSU 1200 w Thermaltake Win10 64Bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derodo Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Great. Nice it's WIP. I also think the shadows on the cockpit glass are way too dark. Moreover, I think they are unrealistic (and maybe a bit distracting while flying). I've never seen such dark shadow areas on my car while driving. Never cared to look for them, but if they are there, they are very subtle; and knowing a little bit about how light works, I don't think that's correctly modeled (at least in the 1.5/2.0 videos I've seen lately). For a perfectly transparent surface, no projected shadows from other surfaces should be visible. Now...considering the glass in the cockpit might not be 100% transparent, it would be ok to have a subtle shadow effect, barely noticeable (if any). My point is, that having no shadows at all in the glass areas would be just fine (better than the dark version seen in the 1.5 videos). If the light interaction with the glass is to be correctly modeled (which I don't think is needed), then the only visible effect you should see is that the scratches and imperfections in the canopy wouldn't reflect off any light on the "shadowed" areas, so you won't have those nice highlight refections wherever other surfaces project their shadow on, as they are blocking light coming from the light source, thus, preventing it from being reflected. But you should still be able to see through the glass (which ideally is 100% transparent, so no light coming from whatever is behind it should get absorved). Or so I think :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSS_Sniper Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I did not say it was "wrong" but it is too dark for my taste in the current build and appears to continue to be the same darkness in 1.5. Sheesh. I also am not reporting a "bug", just asking others opinions. Thanks for moving the thread to Siberia. I guess asking a question is Verboten. How can they be too dark? It depends on the amount of light making the shadows and so many other things. I've had it exactly the way wags showed in many planes I've flown. There's so many factors, but one thing is for sure, they aren't too dark. Too light would be a bigger problem IMO. I9 9900k @ 5ghz water cooled, 32gb ram, GTX 2080ti, 1tb M.2, 2tb hdd, 1000 watt psu TrackIR 5, TM Warthog Stick and Throttle, CH Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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