Nightstorm Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Thank you WINWING. Everyone is allowed to take time off. The out of stock caused a bit of concern :D Thanks for taking care of that! Order placed, looking forward to getting a set :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightstorm Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 A question about connectivity if I may. Apologies if this was answered else ware but I didn't see it. I presume both the Libra and Taurus are USB HID devices and will simply be detected as such by Windows/Flight Sims. Does the Taurus add on panel have it's own USB connection? Or is it integrated into the Taurus by some means? If that were the case the total connections required would be three USB. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmacky Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 The agony of the wait........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 The agony of the wait........... And then the keybinding... SO MUCH BINDING... 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 And then the keybinding... SO MUCH BINDING... It was discussed earlier. I asked if they will provide LUA so that (for at lease the Hornet module), it'll work out of the box. So I'm hoping that is the case. We'll see in a month or two. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 A question about connectivity if I may. Apologies if this was answered else ware but I didn't see it. I presume both the Libra and Taurus are USB HID devices and will simply be detected as such by Windows/Flight Sims. Does the Taurus add on panel have it's own USB connection? Or is it integrated into the Taurus by some means? If that were the case the total connections required would be three USB. Thanks for the info. The agony of the wait........... And then the keybinding... SO MUCH BINDING... It was discussed earlier. I asked if they will provide LUA so that (for at lease the Hornet module), it'll work out of the box. So I'm hoping that is the case. We'll see in a month or two. Hi all, 1. We put a CAN BUS in every device include the panel, so user can use only one USB port when HID model. But windows only allowed 128 KEY in one keyboard, and almost all SIM-FLIGHT use keyboard binding. 128 key is not enough for ops/combat ready/take off or even more panel, so we need 3 usb for each panels. 2.About binding, we have cloud-save function for key binding, you can share your setup with other pilots. But for the terrible Chinese internet satisfy, we are not sure the cloud will online when first deliver. We will try the best! 3.We have different binding model, 2key or 2DCS FUNCION(lua). Best. Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullant Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Hi all, 1. We put a CAN BUS in every device include the panel, so user can use only one USB port when HID model. This sounds like we might have the option to just use them as HID devices, rather than having to rely on intermediate software. Is that right? I hope it is ... Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guram Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Hi Winwing, what is return policy and what is warranty policy for F-18 HOTAS, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusedspine33 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) Clear as mud description of functionality. If these are going to be delivered within 2 months, how they function should be available for disclosure. 1. Do I have to use proprietary software to assign buttons? 2. Can I program each button/switch function within DCS? 3. Do I have to use the cloud based interface? 4. Will I have full functionality without using the cloud interface? Edited July 19, 2019 by Fusedspine33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightstorm Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Agreed. The answer wasn't very clear. So they will be HID devices? And the total number of USB connections will be 3? 1. Libra, 2. Taurus and 3. Flight panel ? Or are you saying the panel alone requires 3 USB and the total would then be 5? The first option seems more likely base on DX HID game controllers. But absolute clarity would be helpful. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) This sounds like we might have the option to just use them as HID devices, rather than having to rely on intermediate software. Is that right? I hope it is ... Clear as mud description of functionality. If these are going to be delivered within 2 months, how they function should be available for disclosure. 1. Do I have to use proprietary software to assign buttons? 2. Can I program each button/switch function within DCS? 3. Do I have to use the cloud based interface? 4. Will I have full functionality without using the cloud interface? Agreed. The answer wasn't very clear. So they will be HID devices? And the total number of USB connections will be 3? 1. Libra, 2. Taurus and 3. Flight panel ? Or are you saying the panel alone requires 3 USB and the total would then be 5? The first option seems more likely base on DX HID game controllers. But absolute clarity would be helpful. Thanks! Dear all, sorry for not clear before, Our solution for this system is one device with one USB cable. It will be 1 usb for joystick base, 1 for throttle and 1 for ops panel. we do have solution to contact all devices together.But we will have a lot different panel for this system in future , it will runout the limit of the key for one USB port. So there is a final solution for each device with usb. About the software: 1. The SIMAPP PRO is our software for the HOTAS system. It’s like the TARGET software from Thrustmaster. You can use the devices with or without this software. Player can binding the keys through this software for any fly-simulator games. 2.But if you want to program some special function , you must use SIMAPP PRO. 3.Players need to calibrate HOTAS with this software. 4.SIMAPP PRO can binding the function to buttons, for example, you can choice "power up" to BOTTON1. 5.This software can choose to save settings locally or upload to cloud. Edited July 20, 2019 by WINWING Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33-DFTC Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Hello Unintentional damage could be return, transport damage duty belong to express. 3 years warranty for elec/structure, button/switch are not include because it determine by use time. Hello, You may revise your stand on this point or your company will be facing serious problems with EU consumer protection policies. There are only two types of aircraft, fighters and targets. - Major Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson, USMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gekoiq Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I have emailed info@winwing.cn twice now and have not received a response regarding my order: 495000000010803 It is stuck in "waiting for order verification" status. Please advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Hello, You may revise your stand on this point or your company will be facing serious problems with EU consumer protection policies. Transport damage caused by poor packaging protection should not be the transporters liability. So please take care in packaging properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullant Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 You may revise your stand on this point or your company will be facing serious problems with EU consumer protection policies. And Australian ... Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDSSTT Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 What is the status of the extension? This is the only thing currently keeping me from ordering. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.csg-2.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 Transport damage caused by poor packaging protection should not be the transporters liability. So please take care in packaging properly Dear Chief, I have just reply your mail. sorry for late. Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 Hello, You may revise your stand on this point or your company will be facing serious problems with EU consumer protection policies. And Australian ... Dear all ,we have confidence of our quality. Will release detail later in our webstie. Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 What is the status of the extension? This is the only thing currently keeping me from ordering. Very close to release, :) Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullant Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Are there any updates coming/planned? I have $1300 sitting here that I was planning to use to order a set, but I would really like to see at least a detailed throttle video and preferably a 3rd party review before submitting that sort of cash. Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 They might be waiting for their launch event to show off everything... they are probably extremely busy. 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogay Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I know every one waiting for the throttle video. So sneak peak coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Wow. Hand for scale, look at the size of that thing! Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) WINWING F/A-18C HOTAS 2019.7.3 RELEASE That throttle looks bigger than I expected, in a positive way that is. Should we expect any new throttle videos since the product is supposed to be shipped in just a few weeks? I’m still hesitant to pull the trigger on the product though, based on what we have seen so far. Good luck with UPS shipping. Had a recent damaged shipment from Spain and they refused to take responsibility for the damaged package. For people in the USA, you will not get live support from UPS. Phone calls get routed to prerecorded messages telling you to press buttons for tracking, delivery, status update, etc. Email support link takes you to general FAQ web page with preselected questions/answers and no way to input your personal messages and basically would tell you to use their app should you want to modify your shipping or delivery. This almost drove me nuts dealing with UPS since there was no way for me to contact them directly. Fortunately, the seller (Realsimulator) went above and beyond, and everything was taken care of from their end. Edited August 3, 2019 by Supmua PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogay Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 That throttle looks bigger than I expected, in a positive way that is. Should we expect any new throttle videos since the product is supposed to be shipped in just a few weeks? I’m still hesitant to pull the trigger on the product though, based on what we have seen so far. Good luck with UPS shipping. Had a recent damaged shipment from Spain and they refused to take responsibility for the damaged package. For people in the USA, you will not get live support from UPS. Phone calls get routed to prerecorded messages telling you to press buttons for tracking, delivery, status update, etc. Email support link takes you to general FAQ web page with preselected questions/answers and no way to input your personal messages and basically would tell you to use their app should you want to modify your shipping or delivery. This almost drove me nuts dealing with UPS since there was no way for me to contact them directly. Fortunately, the seller (Realsimulator) went above and beyond, and everything was taken care of from their end. Bless you They did encounter an unhappy experience with UPS before they started the preorder event. Their website offers UPS,DHL and Fedex for buyers to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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