HiJack Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I tried to look, but maybe I'm blind and couldn't find it, but will the new trees affect AI line of sight detection? Yes. In a helicopter you can hover behind trees and AI won’t see you. :thumbup: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitormouraa Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I can confirm that! It works. SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Yes. In a helicopter you can hover behind trees and AI won’t see you. :thumbup: That is the thing that will make helicopter modules like 10 000x more capable and perform the tasks required from them. Get the trees LOS affect radars, optical targeting systems, missiles, AI vision and some HEI ammunition, but leave the AP ammunition to fly through from few trees at least. I so hope the thing isn't next to be something where a one tree is front of a KA-50/AH-1 and no AI sees it :D (Yeah, I hope they have figured the thing out). i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJack Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 That is the thing that will make helicopter modules like 10 000x more capable and perform the tasks required from them. Get the trees LOS affect radars, optical targeting systems, missiles, AI vision and some HEI ammunition, but leave the AP ammunition to fly through from few trees at least. I so hope the thing isn't next to be something where a one tree is front of a KA-50/AH-1 and no AI sees it :D (Yeah, I hope they have figured the thing out). Only ED and testers know how well it works. Would love a demo flight of a Ka-50 hiding out behind trees and getting shot at. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonnieRock Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Conflicting Answers A question to the testers in case they know and are at liberty to answer. If i am not mistaken, ED's map building tools and techniques are in constant development and thus each new map should be more detailed and advanced than the ones that came before. So i reckon the new Caucasus will be better on various fronts than NTTR in its current iteration. SoH would then be even better than the 2.5 Caucasus version. Now, NTTR looks realy amazing overall. For helicopter pilots though, hovering over the ground at a couple of feet, the terrains flatness and close up low texture quality really shows. First, do you have any info whether SoH will be build with new techniques or engine enhancements that give more grainularity to the ground (small rocks, holes, cracks etc. generally more uneven/rugged surface) including HD textures when looking from 2-1 meters height? If that is the case, might we see this transferred over to NTTR at some later point as well? Caucasus 2.5 is an extensive upgrade of the existing map. Unlike NTTR, Normandy and the upcoming SoH maps, it was not created from scratch, so while it will be much better than the old 1.5 map, it doesnt use everything the other new maps might. do guys think Caucasus will be the 'fullest or most detailed' map compared to NTTR and Normandy? Or will it be way better than the old one, but because its derived from the old and due to its sheer size won't be as detailed and high poly as the more recent ones? See post above yours. New Caucasus / Caucasus 2.5, whatever you want to call it will use all of the technologies and items used in Nevada and Normandy. :unsure: So which is it? 1) Doesn't use all 2) Use all? Happy Simming, Monnie Rack Rig: Rosewill RSV-L4000 | Koolance ERM-3K3UC | Xeon E5-1680 v2 @ 4.9ghz w/EK Monoblock | Asus Rampage IV Black Edition | 64GB 2133mhz | SLI TitanXP w/ EK Waterblocks | 2x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB | Seasonic 1000w Titanium | Windows 10 Pro 64bit | TM Warthog HOTAS w/40cm Extension | MFG Crosswind Rudders | Obutto R3volution | HP Reverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted December 23, 2017 ED Team Share Posted December 23, 2017 :unsure: So which is it? 1) Doesn't use all 2) Use all? Happy Simming, Monnie It's simply this, its an upgrade of the old map instead of a ground up creation. It uses some tech from the new maps, but not 100%, as a bonus it's also the first map using Speedtrees. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 It's simply this, its an upgrade of the old map instead of a ground up creation. It uses some tech from the new maps, but not 100%, as a bonus it's also the first map using Speedtrees. So it sounds the 3 existing maps will all have very minor pros and cons; all in all they will be fantastic in their own ways. Then, at least it sounds like, SoH might be the creme de la creme once it is released as it will have all of the new goodies (except still TBD on SpeedTrees IIRC). Good stuff, NTTR looks great in 2.2 and Caucasus 2.5 looks great in the videos. At the end of the day that's all that matters...that the maps look top notch (even if another map may have one small enhancement over it but one other small tradeoff) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk VR Cockpit (link): Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + Otto switches | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper | VPC T-50 Base + 15cm Black Sahaj Extension + TM Hornet or Warthog Grip | Super Warthog Wheel Stand Pro | Steelcase Leap V2 + JetSeat SE VR Rig: Pimax 5K+ | ASUS ROG Strix 1080Ti | Intel i7-9700K | Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master | Corsair H115i RGB Platinum | 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200 | Dell U3415W Curved 3440x1440 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schurem Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 are we there yet? two more weeks...... I5 9600KF, 32GB, 3080ti, G2, PointCTRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Pedro= Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 are we there yet? two more weeks...... Almost :D Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X | i7 9700K@5.0GHz | Gainward Phantom GS RTX 3080 | 32GB DDR4@3200MHz | HP Reverb | TrackIR 5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Croswinds | DCS PD 1.0 / Steam VR SS 170% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithion Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Then, at least it sounds like, SoH might be the creme de la creme once it is released as it will have all of the new goodies (except still TBD on SpeedTrees IIRC). SpeedPalmTrees :prop: T.16000m HOTAS + Pedals || TrackIR5 || Win10 64bit || 120+500GB SSD, 1TB HDD || i5 4440 @3.3GHz || 16GB RAM @ 1600MHz || GTX1070 G1 || FCIII, L39ZA, AJS-37, Normandy '44, Persian Gulf, Channel F/A-18C, Bf-109 K-4, WW2 Asset Pack, CA, P-47, F-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 SSDs Speed Sand Dunes..... Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Sorry if asked, is speed tree currently being used in NTTR and Normandy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow KT Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 No. The new Caucasus is going to be the first one using them 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted January 9, 2018 ED Team Share Posted January 9, 2018 No. The new Caucasus is going to be the first one using them Correct, and right now I know of no plans to add them to NTTR or Normandy, although I hope they change their minds on Normandy, NTTR is probably fine as is, but I wouldnt be mad if they did as well :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Correct, and right now I know of no plans to add them to NTTR or Normandy, although I hope they change their minds on Normandy, NTTR is probably fine as is, but I wouldnt be mad if they did as well :)I think if it's a big success in Caucasus, they'll come back to Normandy, IMEO :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted January 9, 2018 ED Team Share Posted January 9, 2018 I think if it's a big success in Caucasus, they'll come back to Normandy, IMEO :) Yeah, I am not sure how that works, it is a 3rd Party map, and I dont know the cost and/or how it works going back into the map to add them, if its a lot of work, etc. So we will see... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 might be more work, but having the same tech in all the maps will make them easier to maintain.. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Even strait of hormuz has no speedtree. It Will be discussed by ED. It’s a huge work. I think new maps after strait of hormuz get it standard. Vietnam Will be immersive new step in map envirement. :D 1 New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dioxin Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Well I hope 2.5 is coming pretty soon as I've just uninstalled 1.5.8 and 2.2 in prep for a new OS install and a move to a dedicated VR room. I won't reinstall until 2.5 is out (but I will install A-10C v1.1.1.1, Black Shark 1.0.2 and Black Shark 2 v1.1.1.1 to keep me smiling until then). Oh - and FC2 :) Kneeboard Guides Rig: Asus B650-GAMING PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; SN-1 Pedals; VR = Pico 4 over VD Wireless + Index; Point Control v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lixma 06 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Even strait of hormuz has no speedtree. It Will be discussed by ED. It’s a huge work. I think new maps after strait of hormuz get it standard. Vietnam Will be immersive new step in map envirement. :D speedcamel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted January 9, 2018 ED Team Share Posted January 9, 2018 Even strait of hormuz has no speedtree. It Will be discussed by ED. It’s a huge work. I think new maps after strait of hormuz get it standard. Vietnam Will be immersive new step in map envirement. :D And honestly I am not sure a map like SoH would be worth the work and cost of speedtrees. It was important for the Black Sea map with all the wooded areas. I would like to see it in Normandy just because I want them to be able to improve the hedgerows as well :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Sure that would be great, but the cost of it? Is normandy sold enough too get speedtree in it? Only ED can answer this. :D New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven68 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Well I hope 2.5 is coming pretty soon as I've just uninstalled 1.5.8 and 2.2 in prep for a new OS install and a move to a dedicated VR room. I won't reinstall until 2.5 is out (but I will install A-10C v1.1.1.1, Black Shark 1.0.2 and Black Shark 2 v1.1.1.1 to keep me smiling until then). Oh - and FC2 :) Going for a totally fresh install? It was advised to keep the other versions around as 2.2 will pull files that are already local on your system to cut down the download time. Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6(Assume the latest driver version) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 10 Professional Oculus Rift-S /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dioxin Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Unfortunately I had to remove them as I am switching around my SSDs as well. I have a fast, fibre connection, though, and as long as the download speed from ED servers or torrent is at its normal speed for me, it won't take too long. Kneeboard Guides Rig: Asus B650-GAMING PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; SN-1 Pedals; VR = Pico 4 over VD Wireless + Index; Point Control v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33-DFTC Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Sure that would be great, but the cost of it? Is normandy sold enough too get speedtree in it? Only ED can answer this. :D I'm wondering about the sales too. I think the Normandy map looks gorgeous but its bad rep regarding its poor performance makes it a no go for me. If Normandy could benefit from Speedtree then I'll probably buy it, but if there is not enough sales I don't think it will be cost effective for ED to invest time and ressources. Well, the snake biting its own tail. There are only two types of aircraft, fighters and targets. - Major Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson, USMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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