CobaltUK Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 We need contrast and fonts that merge less. Much like below example. 1 Windows 7/10 64bit, Intel i7-4770K 3.9GHZ, 32 GB Ram, Gforce GTX 1080Ti, 11GB GDDR5 Valve Index. Force IPD 63 (for the F-16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac5 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Agree! Those MFD's are far to dim and dull, and not only in VR. The brightness and contrast buttons have no effect. Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3000 Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Monitor ASUS PA 329 32" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 4 TB Windows 10 - 64 V. 2004 CH Pro combatstick, throttle and pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion27 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamscanner Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 I'm using the HP Reverb and I find the MFD is way too dim. Waiting a MFD fix before I 'dive' into this jet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 The MFDs look much better in the TWS video from yesterday. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked.- Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 The MFDs look much better in the TWS video from yesterday. Agreed. I posted a slightly snarky comment on the YouTube comments for the trailer. I said what good is TWS when you can't see the contacts because the MFDs are so dark. Then I asked if they could add the EXP option in the FCR. Wags replied and said YES, the EXP addition will be in this update as well. While that doesn't fix the MFDs, it does mean we can EXPand the view, or zoom in if you will to separate overlapping contacts. Well done Wags. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 But doesn't the MFD symbology look brighter in the video vs what we have in the game right now? It does to me, at least. Seems to me like they upped the brightness. We'll see on the 27th, of course. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 But doesn't the MFD symbology look brighter in the video vs what we have in the game right now? It does to me, at least. Seems to me like they upped the brightness. We'll see on the 27th, of course. Yes, that was my first thought too. But it could be because i fly only in VR? We will see. Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 The MFDs look much better in the TWS video from yesterday. Didn't notice this right away, but it's true. The blue items are a lot clearer and the fonts are a tad thinner which makes them easier to read. I kept the videos in that small box so it show better, how much impact this will have in "low res environments" like a Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltUK Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 The MFDs look much better in the TWS video from yesterday. Considering the level of zoom and good amount of shade apparent its hard to say what level of improvement there might be. Windows 7/10 64bit, Intel i7-4770K 3.9GHZ, 32 GB Ram, Gforce GTX 1080Ti, 11GB GDDR5 Valve Index. Force IPD 63 (for the F-16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo_37 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Great idea Eldur with the comparison. Looking at that side by side, I think the only thing that's changed is the capture resolution Wags used on the new videos, and as said above, zoom and shade. We shall see. I've been assured its on their radar and "acknowledged". What that means or when the brightness and contrast functions get implemented is yet to be seen. Hopefully sooner than later so the multitudes with difficulty reading the MFD's, can enjoy the jet the way it was supposed to be. Till then, it might be time to revisit my warbirds and look forward to VFAT :D GTX 1080ti FTW3, Intel I7 9700k 5.0Ghz Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 7 Z370, Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 The improved readability was the first thing I noticed in the video, because it is so much better than what I experience on my side (without VR!). Really looking forward to that! Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac5 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Looking forward INDEED.....L Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3000 Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Monitor ASUS PA 329 32" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 4 TB Windows 10 - 64 V. 2004 CH Pro combatstick, throttle and pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthatdan Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Hopefully, any improvement will also carry over when the MFDs are extracted to a different monitor, too. aka Badger X570 Aorus Master, Ryzen 3700X @3.8, 32GB DDR4@3200,RTX1070 Super, GTX 1070Ti, Win 10 Home, HOTAS Cougar, and some other DoDads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I didin't see any improvement with the latest patch FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I didin't see any improvement with the latest patch Bummer, but how was it so good in Wags' latest videos then? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I didin't see any improvement with the latest patch Same here. I think it's the same as before. i believe that Wags had a later build than the one we got, because my RWR sounds remained the same, while his RWR had updated sounds. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiprat Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Not tried yet but I thought sounds were included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Still can't read them. Can't tell the difference between a bugged target and another. Or a system track or the other. Just blobs and very dim. gonna have a play with gfx settings. I do not have issues with anything else bar maybe reading the hornet altitude on the TDC cursor. I think this is definitely compounded by VR... ie displaying blue versus green is a real issue for HMD's. But I could do with some compensation for that in contrast in my CV1. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked.- Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 +1 Still can't read them. In fact, with the extra symbology for TWS and Link16 it's much worse. I may just have to turn Link16 off completely....... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked.- Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I believe the difference between the Video from Wags and what we're seeing is the time of day he took the video and the placement of the sun in relation to the cockpit. If the sun is behind you, the MFD's are legible but by no means easy to read. I believe he has the sun behind him and he is zoomed in some amount. This would make them look like they do in the Video. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked.- Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Same here. I think it's the same as before. i believe that Wags had a later build than the one we got, because my RWR sounds remained the same, while his RWR had updated sounds. Download Tyrant F-16 RWR mod. Works great for now. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Download Tyrant F-16 RWR mod. Works great for now.I have a mod, I just thought I wouldn't need it anymore . It's just that Wags had updated sounds and even confirmed it in a comment, on the TWS YouTube video. But thanks! The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked.- Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I have a mod, I just thought I wouldn't need it anymore . It's just that Wags had updated sounds and even confirmed it in a comment, on the TWS YouTube video. But thanks! I saw that comment as well and left the Tyrant mod off. When I fired up the RWR I was greeted with the annoying F-18 tones. I have further modded Tyrant's RWR sounds with the sounds from another Viper sim..... It sounds lovely lol. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked.- Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Bummer, but how was it so good in Wags' latest videos then? Placing the sun at your back and zooming in can get the same effect. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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