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Old 06-12-2019, 05:07 PM   #421
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Просто захотелось сделать свою модификацию Ка-50ED.
Кому Иглы не нужны может просто их не использовать. Также и на серверах.

Поскольку Су-25Т и Ка-50 изначально являются не строевыми, тестовыми ЛА, мы можем себе позволить поэкспериментировать с ними.
Translated: I just wanted to make my own modification of the Ka-50ED.
Those who do not need needles can simply not use them. Also on the servers.

Since the Su-25T and Ka-50 are initially not front-line, test aircraft, we can afford to experiment with them.



Was this already know? Doesnt sound good to me atleast. And apparenly ka50 never had iglas as far as ED knows.
Also we will probably hear more info in autumn he said.
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Old 06-12-2019, 05:45 PM   #422
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Attachment 211808

That port number is unknown.
  1. Notice that datalink panel is under the wepons configuration panel.
  2. That targeting system on left panel is relocated forward, further from the collective.
  3. The counter measurement panel is brought to left panel, under targeting panel.
  4. That the communications panel has moved near collective and has small digital LCD panel.
  5. You have two TV's side by side, no ABRIS (and by photo look, it is one of the earlier ones)
  6. On the right wall panel the oil pressure gauges are right of the second TV.
  7. The engine fire buttons are all in tight four button grouping, instead two grouping.
  8. The weapons jettison button order is RED, BLACK order, instead our BLACK, RED.
  9. The overhead warning lamp panel ha two rows and fills the whole width of the cockpit, ours has two 4x4 light groupings.
  10. Four warning light right on the Vertical Speed Indicator
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DCS BS2 Flight Manual EN, p.15-9
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Bibliography and Sources
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  • Мазепов А., Михеев С., Зенкин В., Жирнов А., Ка-50 Армейский боевой вертолет. POLYGON. Авиационная серия. – М.: «Любимая книга», 1996.
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ISBN 5-7656-0005-0, pp.117–121 (in English: pp.126–127).
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Old 06-12-2019, 06:12 PM   #423
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Very, Very interesting history of the Ka-50 and a LOT of good points made!


I'll have to mull all this new info over.


Gonna have to learn to read Russian too, as it seems a lot of stuff is being said in the Russian forum that isn't being said here!


Sounds like Chizh is just suggesting kind of what I had said. Most of us can't afford over $1000 Hotas systems and VR / Track-IR, so it gets very difficult for us to fly and target at the same time. Then, to worsen it all, we can't even get the shkval to lock up the flying target. So, we need something that can target fast and easy, like an IR-Air to Air missile. Igla. R-73.


I would VERY much like to see what came about with that last modernization phase on the Ka-50 though. Looks like it go a whole new cockpit, and so one wonders, what was added.

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Old 06-12-2019, 07:05 PM   #424
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… I would VERY much like to see what came about with that last modernization phase on the Ka-50 though. Looks like it go a whole new cockpit, and so one wonders, what was added.
Sorry, I do not speak English. This is Google Translate. On the Ka-50, practically nothing new happened. On the last 3 boards (factory No.3538054703003, tail No.27, tail No.28), there were places for the installation of an onboard defense complex, and the HMS "Obzor-800" system was missing in the cockpit.
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Board No.28.



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Old 06-12-2019, 09:37 PM   #425
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This topic is getting REALLY interesting with deep insights on the different Ka-50 variations throughout the years. Well done!

No third pylon on the Ka-50 though
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No third pylon on the Ka-50 though
Yep, so it would seem
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Ok... Here is the solution to all this...


We should get a "#42" KA-50 that has the best of life, the universe and everything that all KA50's had in it. With at LEAST 3 wing pylons. On each wing of course...
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:31 PM   #428
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Translated: I just wanted to make my own modification of the Ka-50ED.
Those who do not need needles can simply not use them. Also on the servers.

Since the Su-25T and Ka-50 are initially not front-line, test aircraft, we can afford to experiment with them.



Was this already know? Doesnt sound good to me atleast. And apparenly ka50 never had iglas as far as ED knows.
Also we will probably hear more info in autumn he said.

Thanks, Branch. Read the last three pages of that conversation on the Russian boards. I left a message for Chizh requesting longer Ka-52 wing, 3rd rail for igla's, and FLIR be added to the "Ka-50ED". Looks like it will be as I suggested here, and "ticked in" on the "Special" page, right along side things like "Rudder Trim". Anyone else want anything, you might as well ask!
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:45 PM   #429
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… No third pylon on the Ka-50 though
Yes, they never existed. The 3rd pylon appeared only on the Ka-52 of the 4th serial batch, starting with the machine with serial No.04-01 (registration No.RF-91117). The Ka-52 of the 3rd serial batch (helicopters with serial No.03-01÷03-05), as well as earlier ones, not to mention the Ka-50, were produced with 2 pylons.
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For example, a machine with serial No.02-04 (registration No.RF-95321, tail No.34 yellow):


The machine with serial No.03-03 (registration No.RF-91123, tail No.93 yellow):


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… We should get a "#42" KA-50 that has the best of life, the universe and everything that all KA50's had in it. With at LEAST 3 wing pylons. On each wing of course...
The Ka-50 with such a tail number never existed. Here are all the board numbers Ka-50, which existed in reality.
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Old 06-13-2019, 12:03 AM   #430
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Thanks, Branch. Read the last three pages of that conversation on the Russian boards. I left a message for Chizh requesting longer Ka-52 wing, 3rd rail for igla's, and FLIR be added to the "Ka-50ED". Looks like it will be as I suggested here, and "ticked in" on the "Special" page, right along side things like "Rudder Trim"ne else want anything, you might as well ask!
Yes i saw it, hopefully they will do it. But do you mind that the ka50ED never existed? On the Russian forum alot of people dont like that idea. Also ED doesnt know alot about the president s system since its still widely used, Chizh said they have geusses and hypothesses. So i was thinking this is one of the less realsitic updates with made up stuff (igla on ka50).
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