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Old 06-17-2018, 01:06 AM   #11
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It appears Virpil is finally getting their production spun up so I'm likely to go that way as much for lack of throttle options than anything else. Probably go with the stick as well since they claim they will have multiple software modes for the works down the road and it will be backwards compatible. That would mitigate the lack of controls on the stick making it more viable. I'd actually prefer something else otherwise but no one really makes what I would want; something the likes of the X56 but of high quality and without the ergo blunders.
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Old 06-17-2018, 01:15 AM   #12
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I looked into this company a bit earlier this year. I typically buy all new sim hotas stuff anyway, so long at it's under $1000 per unit - I can't recall what the prices where on this stuff, but IIRC it was still under this, so I'll probably be in.


I do have one of the Saitek X65 hotas in my collection, and the force sensing system works better than I thought it would. More than well enough to play, especially less competitive single player experience stuff, although I did find that in multi/PVP competitive stuff like Aces high that I fly, it was a bit less than ideal. Perhaps this company will have more spun up tech than Saitek did with their brief and, IMO failed attempt, and bringing force sensing hotas to the masses. I'll stay tuned, for sure.
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Old 06-17-2018, 04:35 AM   #13
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How does force sensing tech fall down in comp play?
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Old 06-17-2018, 05:01 AM   #14
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The F-16SG-HOM is Warthog compatible right?
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:51 AM   #15
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The F-16SG-HOM is Warthog compatible right?
It use the FSSB R3 Lightning base, so yes. In fact, for Warthog users, they can buy the R3 Lightning base, which is available since 2015.

Now they are developing the F-16 grip.
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Old 06-19-2018, 10:12 PM   #16
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The F-16SG-HOM is Warthog compatible right?
This question can be viewed in two ways. If you're asking whether the RealSimulator F16 grip can be put onto a base like the TM Warthog base or the Virpil base, then the answer is most likely no. You will be able to physically mount it, but the RealSimulator grip has a ton more buttons:



Every control on the joystick is a 5-way switch. Unless the base can handle it or there's a fallback mode in the joystick, the base won't be able to communicate with the joystick properly.

If you're asking whether the RealSimulator FSSB base is compatible with the Warthog stick, then the answer is yes.
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Old 06-19-2018, 11:39 PM   #17
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... Virpil .... Probably go with the stick as well since they claim they will have multiple software modes for the works down the road and it will be backwards compatible.
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Old 06-20-2018, 01:04 PM   #18
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This question can be viewed in two ways. If you're asking whether the RealSimulator F16 grip can be put onto a base like the TM Warthog base or the Virpil base, then the answer is most likely no. You will be able to physically mount it, but the RealSimulator grip has a ton more buttons:







Every control on the joystick is a 5-way switch. Unless the base can handle it or there's a fallback mode in the joystick, the base won't be able to communicate with the joystick properly.



If you're asking whether the RealSimulator FSSB base is compatible with the Warthog stick, then the answer is yes.


IIRC the new grip works like a standard cougar/warthog grip with those each bases. Full support(like additional 5-way hats) is only for R3 base.

It may be changed when it actually comes out, so be sure to check the compatiblity.


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Old 06-20-2018, 07:51 PM   #19
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I haven't seen any info regarding backwards compatibility with the Warthog/Virpil base, but I'd be surprised if it did support those bases. At the price point that this stick will sell at (likely >$300), there's really no point in buying one to use with the Warthog/Virpil base, since you can't take advantage of the extra buttons or the extra features that it has, and the MongoosT-50 and TM stick are at much lower price points for the same functionality. Maybe it's something that's super easy to implement and will be added in as a "sure why not" feature, but unless someone is looking for an eventual upgrade path to the FSSB R3 base, I don't see an advantage of purchasing this stick over the other 2.

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