Swift. Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 What capabilities will link16/MIDS in hornet eventual have? Will it be able to do all the stuff that SADL can do in A-10C, eg hooking, spi sharing etc? 476th Discord | 476th Website | Swift Youtube Ryzen 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64GB, Quest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev2go Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) Minus those things you listed link 16 currently already does far more than sadl on hsd page currently does on the a10c. Ed for whatever reasons be, have only provided a very gimped and bare bones functionality relative to link 16 on hornet, and to what will come on f16. Irl sadl should be capable of many similar things that link 16 can do, such as show unknown and verified enemy air contacts detected by other sadl equipped fighters or via gateway with link 16 fighter aircraft as well as awacs. A10c hsd page also lacks sam site listings and thier radius that would be present via data cartridge as you currently have in the hornet and will see in thef16 with the next upcoming patch And that i have easily determine purely from what's ive read from the actual a10c fm. Edited November 25, 2019 by Kev2go Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Jockey Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) I have a doubt regarding the Hornet Link 16 (can also be called Datalink?) : Created a mission with : - ownship F/A-18C - allied AWACS - enemy AWACS and fighters - enemy Naval vessel Moskva Every unit appears at the SA page when the my datalink is active, except the enemy ship Moskva. Is it supposed to also appear, or are the naval vessels WIP for the datalink ? Edited December 3, 2019 by Top Jockey Hangar FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | F/A-18C | MiG-21bis | Mirage 2000C ... ... JA 37 | Kfir | MiG-23 | Mirage IIIE Mi-8 MTV2 system i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Only airborne targets are shown on DL. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I think you should also be able to transmit a designated ground target position with MIDS, no? The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Jockey Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Only airborne targets are shown on DL. Thnk you QuiGon, that I din't know, doubt answered then. Hangar FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | F/A-18C | MiG-21bis | Mirage 2000C ... ... JA 37 | Kfir | MiG-23 | Mirage IIIE Mi-8 MTV2 system i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I think you should also be able to transmit a designated ground target position with MIDS, no? Possibly, but then it's not implemented in DCS yet. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Possibly, but then it's not implemented in DCS yet. Yeah, I meant IRL. I'm not entirely sure of what exactly we're supposed to be doing with the MIDS A and MIDS B throttle switches, but I'm guessing that target sharing might fit there. There's also a TXDSG option on the SA page that could be an option to broadcast your designated AG target. That's all speculation, but one way or another, some form of target/designation sharing should be possible. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Jockey Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Yeah, I meant IRL. I'm not entirely sure of what exactly we're supposed to be doing with the MIDS A and MIDS B throttle switches, but I'm guessing that target sharing might fit there. There's also a TXDSG option on the SA page that could be an option to broadcast your designated AG target. That's all speculation, but one way or another, some form of target/designation sharing should be possible. So my doubt rises again... does an AWACS can detect enemy naval vessels position and send it to the F/A-18C via Datalink ? Hangar FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | F/A-18C | MiG-21bis | Mirage 2000C ... ... JA 37 | Kfir | MiG-23 | Mirage IIIE Mi-8 MTV2 system i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 So my doubt rises again... does an AWACS can detect enemy naval vessels position and send it to the F/A-18C via Datalink ?AFAIK, the AWACS platforms that we have in the sim are able to detect only air targets. We'd need something like JSTARS or a P-3C with AG radar, for ground targets. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I'm not entirely sure of what exactly we're supposed to be doing with the MIDS A and MIDS B throttle switches, but I'm guessing that target sharing might fit there. They are the PTTs for MIDS voice. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I saw video on youtube that the hornet can also receives DL from the Aegis class destroyer (which I don't believe its modeled in DCS) so it should be possible to see detected ship I guess. Edit : oops... didnt read it was asked for AWACS Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvroLanc Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 As far as I’m aware link 16 / SA page should be able to display own flight x 4 members TGT / SPI. It should also show specific assigned ground targets from an AWACS or JTAC, seen as a red triangle, similar to A10. SEAD targets may also be seen in real life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye_UK Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 AFAIK, the AWACS platforms that we have in the sim are able to detect only air targets. We'd need something like JSTARS or a P-3C with AG radar, for ground targets. If only this was the case - on multiplayer having hostile assets such as tankers / awacs allows the opposite team to review the location of nearby ground units in jtac/tac command..... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DCS & BMS F14B | AV-8B | F15E | F18C | F16C | F5 | F86 | A10C | JF17 | Viggen |Mirage 2000 | F1 | L-39 | C101 | Mig15 | Mig21 | Mig29 | SU27 | SU33 | F15C | AH64 | MI8 | Mi24 | Huey | KA50 | Gazelle | P47 | P51 | BF109 | FW190A/D | Spitfire | Mossie | CA | Persian Gulf | Nevada | Normandy | Channel | Syria | South Atlantic | Sinai Liquid Cooled ROG 690 13700K @ 5.9Ghz | RTX3090 FTW Ultra | 64GB DDR4 3600 MHz | 2x2TB SSD m2 Samsung 980/990 | Pimax Crystal/Reverb G2 | MFG Crosswinds | Virpil T50/CM3 | Winwing & Cougar MFD's | Buddyfox UFC | Winwing TOP & CP | Jetseat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 If only this was the case - on multiplayer having hostile assets such as tankers / awacs allows the opposite team to review the location of nearby ground units in jtac/tac command..... Can you elaborate? You mean that if a Redfor AWACS is present, Red team can see ground units in close proximity to their JTAC units on the F10 map? The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneDust Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Only airborne targets are shown on DL. Is that because its not fully implemented? RL ground contacts are displayed. Alienware New Aurora R15 | Windows® 11 Home Premium | 64bit, 13thGen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9 13900KF(24-Core, 68MB| NVIDIA(R) GeForce RTX(TM) 4090, 24GB GDDR6X | 1 X 2TB SSD, 1X 1TB SSD | 64GB, 2x32GB, DDR5, 4800MHz | 1350W PSU, Alienware Cryo-tech (TM) Edition CPU Liquid Cooling power supply | G2 Rverb VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Jockey Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 AFAIK, the AWACS platforms that we have in the sim are able to detect only air targets. We'd need something like JSTARS or a P-3C with AG radar, for ground targets. Ok then, thank you. Hangar FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | F/A-18C | MiG-21bis | Mirage 2000C ... ... JA 37 | Kfir | MiG-23 | Mirage IIIE Mi-8 MTV2 system i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Is that because its not fully implemented? RL ground contacts are displayed. I don't know if and how ground contacts are displayed for the F/A-18C IRL. In DCS there are currently only airborne contacs implemented on the Hornets DL. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 They are the PTTs for MIDS voice. Ah they're only used for that then? I know they're used for MIDS voice (wondering if we'll get that), but I was wondering if they did anything else as well, thanks. Funny thing is that our throttle 3D model doesn't appear to have the MIDS PTTs, only the COMM1 and COMM2 PTTs. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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