Take Off in the Bf 109K-4 - Page 32

WildBillKelsoe · 02-06-2017, 04:04 PM

The only thing I recommend is to train your legs to counter eachother..

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Beerider · 02-27-2017, 11:07 AM

If she can takeoff and land everyone can do it

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0tEtuTit6w&t=3s

9./JG27 DavidRed+ · 02-27-2017, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwarzfeld

Highly not recommended you try to takeoff as noted above or you're in for stall practice at 100ft off the runway. Taking off with flaps is a handicap, it allows you to gain lift sooner (read: at stall speed) which not recommended or suggested in any case other than a super-short-run takeoff for emergency purposes.

absolutely wrong what you are saying here....the flaps make the plane more nose heavy and stable for take off...thats also the reason why its recommended by rl 109 pilots...

mkiii · 04-12-2017, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerider

If she can takeoff and land everyone can do it

)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0tEtuTit6w&t=3s

AHhh.. so it's because I have fair hair (well grey) that I'm crap at T/O in these tail draggers then? it's good to know that It's not something I'm doing wrong - just genetics.

amazingme · 05-18-2017, 09:34 AM

Taming the beast..

BitMaster · 05-19-2017, 09:01 AM

I just flew the 109 yesterday after months of not doing so. It got a lot easier !?

OnlyforDCS · 05-20-2017, 02:30 PM

What do you mean, how did it get easier? Take offs? Landings? ACM?

BitMaster · 05-20-2017, 02:59 PM

Take offs seem to be easier than like 4-6 months ago.

I only need very small left/right toebrake input now to keep it tracking failry well, even with 100% fuel + SC500, which is a ~450kg over max TOW.

Yes, rudder aid = OFF

OnlyforDCS · 05-20-2017, 03:28 PM

It got easier because you got better. Thats the way it works

I used to think the Spit's landings were impossibly difficult. Im nailing them now, and find her to be one of the easiest planes to bring down safely.

BitMaster · 05-20-2017, 06:17 PM

I didnt get better LoL...maybe more concentrated these days.

I was astouned I managed it on 1st try after months and I knew how hard I struggled 1st time it got out..LoL maybe 1 in 5 worked, now its 1 in many that goes wrong.

Those taildraggers are more demanding by nature, the missing nose gear & the torque !

Look at my Avatar, that's a P-47D-23, that beast was hard to keep tzracking straight cuz of the abnormal torque the 4-Stroke supercharged engine had, plus I need FULL elevator UP until fast enough, then release and pull again GENTLY to lift off. That bird gave me grey hair on the first few flights. Apart from that, one of the best planes I ever built from Balsa

Compared to R/C, those RL birds are real tamed and soft, the R/C planes widdle around in circles sooner than you think, that is a lot harder to master than any WWII bird in DCS, at least I feel like this. The mass is the difference.

02-06-2017, 04:04 PM	#311
WildBillKelsoe Veteran Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Cairo, Egypt Posts: 5,618 Reputation power: 48	The only thing I recommend is to train your legs to counter eachother.. Sent from my SM-T231 using Tapatalk __________________ Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

02-27-2017, 11:07 AM	#312
Beerider Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 1 Reputation power: 0	If she can takeoff and land everyone can do it ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0tEtuTit6w&t=3s Last edited by Beerider; 03-03-2017 at 04:01 AM.

05-18-2017, 09:34 AM	#315
amazingme Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Bucharest Posts: 438 Reputation power: 4	Taming the beast.. __________________ Specs: Spoiler: Asus Z97 PRO Gamer, i7 4790K@4.6GHz, 4x8GB Kingston @2400MHz 11-13-14-32, Titan X, Creative X-Fi, 128+2x250GB SSDs, Saitek X55 Throttle + G940, MFG Crosswinds, TrackIR 5 w/ pro clip, JetSeat, Win10 Pro 64-bit, 27" monitor, TN panel, 1920x1080 Settings: Spoiler: 2.1.x - Textures:High Terrain:High Civ.Traffic:Off Water:High VisRan:Low Heatblur:High Shadows:High Res:1920x1080 RoC:1024 MSAA:4x AF:16x HDR:OFF DefS: ON GCI: ON DoF:Off Lens: OFF C/G:390m Trees:1500m R:max Gamma: 1.5

05-19-2017, 09:01 AM	#316
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05-20-2017, 02:30 PM	#317
OnlyforDCS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 2,465 Reputation power: 13	What do you mean, how did it get easier? Take offs? Landings? ACM? __________________ Current specs: Windows 7 64bit, i5-3570K @ 4.2 Ghz, 16 GB RAM, 128GB SSD exclusively for DCS, ASUS Turbo GTX970 4GB, TrackIR 5, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Saitek X52 throttle, Saitek Pro rudder pedals.

05-20-2017, 02:59 PM	#318
BitMaster Veteran Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: SW-Germany Posts: 3,053 Reputation power: 17	Take offs seem to be easier than like 4-6 months ago. I only need very small left/right toebrake input now to keep it tracking failry well, even with 100% fuel + SC500, which is a ~450kg over max TOW. Yes, rudder aid = OFF __________________ Asus Prime-Z270-A - Intel i7-7700K @ 5.0/1.330v adaptive LLC6 Phase_140%-Extreme - 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 XMP 3600@3733 CL16 vDimm 1.4058v VCCIO 1.30v VSA 1.35v - Asus 980GTX Poseidon wc @ 1500/8000 - 2 x Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 1 x Samsung 840 Evo 250GB - 2 x Seagate 2TB - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT @ 4 x 180mm fans - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" WQHD Gsync 144Hz - Win10Pro64 - Corsair Carbide 500r Case 5x120mm 1x200mm fans

05-20-2017, 03:28 PM	#319
OnlyforDCS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 2,465 Reputation power: 13	It got easier because you got better. Thats the way it works I used to think the Spit's landings were impossibly difficult. Im nailing them now, and find her to be one of the easiest planes to bring down safely. __________________ Current specs: Windows 7 64bit, i5-3570K @ 4.2 Ghz, 16 GB RAM, 128GB SSD exclusively for DCS, ASUS Turbo GTX970 4GB, TrackIR 5, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Saitek X52 throttle, Saitek Pro rudder pedals.

05-20-2017, 06:17 PM	#320
BitMaster Veteran Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: SW-Germany Posts: 3,053 Reputation power: 17	I didnt get better LoL...maybe more concentrated these days. I was astouned I managed it on 1st try after months and I knew how hard I struggled 1st time it got out..LoL maybe 1 in 5 worked, now its 1 in many that goes wrong. Those taildraggers are more demanding by nature, the missing nose gear & the torque ! Look at my Avatar, that's a P-47D-23, that beast was hard to keep tzracking straight cuz of the abnormal torque the 4-Stroke supercharged engine had, plus I need FULL elevator UP until fast enough, then release and pull again GENTLY to lift off. That bird gave me grey hair on the first few flights. Apart from that, one of the best planes I ever built from Balsa Compared to R/C, those RL birds are real tamed and soft, the R/C planes widdle around in circles sooner than you think, that is a lot harder to master than any WWII bird in DCS, at least I feel like this. The mass is the difference. __________________ Asus Prime-Z270-A - Intel i7-7700K @ 5.0/1.330v adaptive LLC6 Phase_140%-Extreme - 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 XMP 3600@3733 CL16 vDimm 1.4058v VCCIO 1.30v VSA 1.35v - Asus 980GTX Poseidon wc @ 1500/8000 - 2 x Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 1 x Samsung 840 Evo 250GB - 2 x Seagate 2TB - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT @ 4 x 180mm fans - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" WQHD Gsync 144Hz - Win10Pro64 - Corsair Carbide 500r Case 5x120mm 1x200mm fans

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