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Old 01-16-2020, 11:44 PM   #1
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Hi guys,


inspired by this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDCkexCZrpA) I played a bit with the parameters of FMOptions.lua . Now the required amount of thrust for getting it to move is about 950 RPM and the brakes are a bit less effective. So if you taxi often but don't do a runup, this may be for you.



If you want to try it, then place the file into \DCS World\Mods\aircraft\TF-51D\FM and do a backup of the old file.


I'd like to smoothen out the rudder effectiveness on ground, in order not to overcontrol the Mustang. Does anyone know how this is done? Is there a developer manual describing the parameters?
I am also not too happy with the brakes, while they seem to be more realistic in braking (no more nose-overs), they are unable to hold during the runup at 2300 RPM. Hm.
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Old 01-17-2020, 04:02 AM   #2
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Ah yes, I've seen this video. Great job!
I think you should contact Nineline or BIGNEWY, to maybe get this mod integrated.
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Old 01-17-2020, 07:28 AM   #3
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^ I sure hope they will NOT. I'll take possibility of performing realistic runups and mag checks @ 2300 RPM over a less important initial rolling friction issue.

Fiddling with tyre friction values opens a can of worms - can improve some things while messing up others at the same time, as we've seen with revision of 109 ground physics back in '18.
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:27 AM   #4
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^ I sure hope they will NOT. I'll take possibility of performing realistic runups and mag checks @ 2300 RPM over a less important initial rolling friction issue.

Fiddling with tyre friction values opens a can of worms - can improve some things while messing up others at the same time, as we've seen with revision of 109 ground physics back in '18.
In the .lua, there are only three variables for tire friction for each of the Mustang's wheels. Don't work yourself up. To deny a small and rather competitively effortless step is going 300% overboard
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:12 AM   #5
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Art-J, you are right on this, my initial joy is a bit dampened. For now I see it as a workaround to make taxiing more realistic if you can abdicate the runup. I'll see if I can find more information on how to tune the parameters.
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Youtube vídeos always make good sources for a FM change out of your guts' feelings, right? What could possibly go wrong?



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Youtube vídeos always make good sources for a FM change out of your guts' feelings, right? What could possibly go wrong?



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Clearly you didn't watch the video
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Clearly you didn't watch the video
Agree
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Clearly you didn't watch the video
I watched the video time ago. Still I believe you can't tell things out of your guts just watching a video.


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I watched the video time ago. Still I believe you can't tell things out of your guts just watching a video.


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We don't tell anything, person who made this video compared dcs p-51 to real tf-51 and he said that tf-51 would start rolling even at rpm lower then 900 rpm.
And you still haven't watched this one
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