sobek Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I hope they get around to a Sea Fury at some point. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diveplane Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 You can back up that statement with facts? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G79dkS7EzPY https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_Smiles Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 According to the update the model may have been changed to the 30 block instead of the proposed 28 block. I'm not sure if the was just a typo or what. It'll be interesting to see if they did indeed change it to the 30 block. It would make since as I believe the P-47D-30 was the single most produced block. It was also the first P-47 model to include "dive flaps." I saw that on the update as well, don't know if it's a typo or not either since the kickstarter page still says block 28. Guess we won't know until they mention it or we see the external model. I would prefer the block 30 over the 28, but of course that all depends on the level of documentation they find. I honestly didnt know much about it, it was far from being one of my favorites, but now that I am spending some time getting to know it, I am getting more and more interested in it. Same boat as you. I knew a little information on her but it was never really my favorite aircraft. Since DCS WWII got funded, I've done more looking into all the planes as well and I am definitely looking forward to the P-47 just as much as the others. It will ultimately depend on how I feel about her handling once this project is completed, but I'm thinking that whenever I fly as Allies I'll likely be behind the controls of the P-47 more than any of the other Allied aircraft (especially since I don't care for some of the Mustang's characteristics). "Hurled headlong flaming from the ethereal sky; With hideous ruin and combustion down; To bottomless perdition, there to dwell; In adamantine chains and penal fire" (RIG info is outdated, will update at some point) i5 @3.7GHz (OC to 4.1), 16GB DDR3, Nvidia GTX 970 4GB, TrackIR 5 & TrackClip Pro, TM Warthog HOTAS, VKB T-Rudder Mk.IV, Razer Blackshark Headset, Obutto Ozone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friedrich-4B Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 From the Pilot's Flight Operating Instructions for Army Models P-47D-25, -26, -27, -28, -30 and -35 Airplanes; British Model Thunderbolt (AN-01-65BC-1A 25 January 1945): Cockpit arrangement [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]************************************* Fortunately, Mk IX is slightly stable, anyway, the required stick travel is not high... but nothing extraordinary. Very pleasant to fly, very controllable, predictable and steady. We never refuse to correct something that was found outside ED if it is really proven...But we never will follow some "experts" who think that only they are the greatest aerodynamic guru with a secret knowledge. :smartass: WWII AIRCRAFT PERFORMANCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friedrich-4B Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 P-47D Fuel, Hydraulic and turbocharger Systems: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]************************************* Fortunately, Mk IX is slightly stable, anyway, the required stick travel is not high... but nothing extraordinary. Very pleasant to fly, very controllable, predictable and steady. We never refuse to correct something that was found outside ED if it is really proven...But we never will follow some "experts" who think that only they are the greatest aerodynamic guru with a secret knowledge. :smartass: WWII AIRCRAFT PERFORMANCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krebs20 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Thanks for sharing! Do you know what the size of the oil tank was on the P47? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friedrich-4B Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Thanks for sharing! Do you know what the size of the oil tank was on the P47? Hi Krebs; Total capacity was 28 US gallons = 23 Imperial gallons = 106 litres: the normal capacity was 19 US gal = 16 Imp gal = 72 L, with 9 gallons of expansion capacity; more than 19 gallons was considered overload: P-47D Flight Operations charts including take-off runs, climb data, landing distances and range with various fuel loads. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]************************************* Fortunately, Mk IX is slightly stable, anyway, the required stick travel is not high... but nothing extraordinary. Very pleasant to fly, very controllable, predictable and steady. We never refuse to correct something that was found outside ED if it is really proven...But we never will follow some "experts" who think that only they are the greatest aerodynamic guru with a secret knowledge. :smartass: WWII AIRCRAFT PERFORMANCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pman Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Amazing amount of information available here, Great work everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogster Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I hope they get around to a Sea Fury at some point. Sorry but Luthier's already told me they have to make this first :glare: :music_whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyJail Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 By the way, it is confirmed that the Jug will be a D-30: The P-47 cockpit is beginning to look rather good. We greatly improved the instrument panel. It’s virtually complete now, and it looks a lot more like the real thing. We had to redo a huge chunk of it compared to the previous screenshots, and the gauges now have the proper bezel as they should on the P-47D-30. We’ll be finishing it up next week and polishing it and inserting it into the game engine the week after that, so hopefully there’ll be something cool to show the Friday Dec 6th. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/508681281/dcs-wwii-europe-1944/posts/671732 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LcSummers Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Sure i like the Jug. I like the late P-47 from D-25 to D-30 and for sure the P-47M Hot rod- Cant wait for all warbirds. S! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taco86 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I must be honest, I'm a tiny bit dissapointed that we're getting the d-28 instead of a d-30+ simply due to lack of dorsal fin which improved lateral stability and of course dive recovery flaps that pitched your nose up and out of the compressability tuck experienced from probably .72 mach+. I'm am very much hoping they give us a clean d-28 (no wing racks if you so chose) with 44-1 fuel and manifold pressures up to 70". Customizable gun and ammunition loads would be great as well. 6 or 8 guns, 223-425 rpg. Less guns and ammo obviously would improve turning and roll performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifi Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Fantastic ride! I always loved this plane. A must have for any WW2 flight sim. Can't wait to see it with DCS high fidelity modelling. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_Smiles Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I must be honest, I'm a tiny bit dissapointed that we're getting the d-28 instead of a d-30+ simply due to lack of dorsal fin which improved lateral stability and of course dive recovery flaps that pitched your nose up and out of the compressability tuck experienced from probably .72 mach+. Unless I'm mistaken, I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that we're getting the 30 and not the 28. "Hurled headlong flaming from the ethereal sky; With hideous ruin and combustion down; To bottomless perdition, there to dwell; In adamantine chains and penal fire" (RIG info is outdated, will update at some point) i5 @3.7GHz (OC to 4.1), 16GB DDR3, Nvidia GTX 970 4GB, TrackIR 5 & TrackClip Pro, TM Warthog HOTAS, VKB T-Rudder Mk.IV, Razer Blackshark Headset, Obutto Ozone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavagai Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I'm am very much hoping they give us a clean d-28 (no wing racks if you so chose) with 44-1 fuel and manifold pressures up to 70". Customizable gun and ammunition loads would be great as well. 6 or 8 guns, 223-425 rpg. Less guns and ammo obviously would improve turning and roll performance. There are no racks on the P-51 when you select a clean loadout, so I would expect the same for the P-47. P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyJail Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) Unless I'm mistaken, I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that we're getting the 30 and not the 28.Its pretty confusing. On the KS page it says 28, but he clearly mentioned model 30 in this development update: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/508681281/dcs-wwii-europe-1944/posts/671732 :huh: I would have actually preferred a Razorback-model, but thats just me. :music_whistling: Edited January 11, 2014 by BabyJail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted January 12, 2014 ED Team Share Posted January 12, 2014 It is the 30 as far as I know. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friedrich-4B Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Adding from P-47D Pilot's Flight Operating Instructions P-47D-30 dive recovery flaps and instrument panel: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]************************************* Fortunately, Mk IX is slightly stable, anyway, the required stick travel is not high... but nothing extraordinary. Very pleasant to fly, very controllable, predictable and steady. We never refuse to correct something that was found outside ED if it is really proven...But we never will follow some "experts" who think that only they are the greatest aerodynamic guru with a secret knowledge. :smartass: WWII AIRCRAFT PERFORMANCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goanna1 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Interesting videos of P-47 from YouTube The "Ikea factor or uncrating/assembly" of a P-47 in the field is interesting. Uncrating and Field Assembly of the P-47 Thunderbolt Fighter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2D3k0sJ8HM#t=16 This truly remarkable step-by-step training film shows how a ground support crew of fifty men could assemble a P-47 fighter in a farm field using nothing more than muscle, unpowered hand tools and pieces of the shipping crate it came in. We're talking nothing more than hammers, wrenches and bicycle pumps. You'll get a unique look at the inner workings of the big Jug as it is bolted together. Then a pilot jumps in and flies it away! A must see for P-47 fans and shade tree mechanics alike. How To Fly The P-47 - Pilot Familiarization (1943) How to Fly the P-47: Pilot Familiarization War Department. Army Air Forces. (06/20/1941 - 09/26/1947) ARC Identifier 2770 / Local Identifier 18-AF-107A. Describes flight characteristics of the P-47 Thunderbolt, including service ceiling, speed, power, fuel consumption, turbosupercharger system, use of turbo and throttled landing gear and flaps, armament, and switch and control panel. Shows use of the P-47 cockpit trainer. P-47 Pilot Training Film 1943; Ground handling, take off, flight and landing How to Fly the P-47: Ground Handling, Take-Off, Normal Flight, Landing War Department. Army Air Forces. (06/20/1941 - 09/26/1947) ARC Identifier 2771 / Local Identifier 18-AF-107B. Demonstrates procedures in flying the P-47. Includes preflight and cockpit checks, warm-up, taxiing, cruising, banking, stalling, speeds for approaches, turns, and landings. Also shows how to conduct postflight checks. How To Fly The P-47 - High Altitude Flight and Aerobatics (1943) How to Fly the P-47: High Altitude Flight and Aerobatics War Department. Army Air Forces. (06/20/1941 - 09/26/1947) ARC Identifier 2772 / Local Identifier 18-AF-107C. Demonstrates the Thunderbolt in dives, loops, slow rolls, Immelman turns, spins, and recoveries, and half rolls. Stresses precautions and proper speeds for various altitudes. Also explains functions of turbosupercharger and water injection systems in high altitude flight. Edited January 12, 2014 by Goanna1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted January 13, 2014 ED Team Share Posted January 13, 2014 I changed the thread title to the correct variant. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB3DG Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Gotta love the jug....Its like the F-15 of WWII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted January 14, 2014 ED Team Share Posted January 14, 2014 From the FHC: http://flyingheritage.tumblr.com/post/72672997380/victory-markings http://www.flyingheritage.com/TemplatePlane.aspx?contentId=30 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrett_g Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 I changed the thread title to the correct variant. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiloMorai Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I must be honest, I'm a tiny bit dissapointed that we're getting the d-28 instead of a d-30+ simply due to lack of dorsal fin which improved lateral stability and of course dive recovery flaps that pitched your nose up and out of the compressability tuck experienced from probably .72 mach+. Dorsal fin fillets were retro fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IonicRipper Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Can't wait to fly the Jug in DCS. I've been flying A2A's P-47 in the mean time. Learning how the turbo supercharger works and how to use it is fascinating (being one of the only WWII aircraft I know of that used this type of system.) I also like how everything is so much more manual then the P-51, I like to be in complete control of every aspect of my ship. Hopefully the Thunderbolt in DCS WWII will be as good as the Mustang. Edited February 4, 2014 by IonicRipper i5 4590 @ 3.77GHz | GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 | 1TB HDD+500GB HDD | Win10 Home X64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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