Raisuli Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Started up DCS, then decided to unplug an (unrelated) exFAT USB SSD (SATA with a SATA-USB cable). Instant CTD. Not sure it matters to you (complete non-issue to me), just an odd behavior. When bug hunting data is good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 23, 2019 ED Team Share Posted June 23, 2019 Thanks for letting us know, I will pass this on to the team. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Laivynas Posted June 24, 2019 ED Team Share Posted June 24, 2019 Started up DCS, then decided to unplug an (unrelated) exFAT USB SSD (SATA with a SATA-USB cable). Instant CTD. Not sure it matters to you (complete non-issue to me), just an odd behavior. When bug hunting data is good... Could You kindly provide us with more details? Best Regards, Dmitry. "Чтобы дойти до цели, надо прежде всего идти." © О. Бальзак Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raisuli Posted June 24, 2019 Author Share Posted June 24, 2019 Could You kindly provide us with more details? I didn't have time (at the time) to dig into it. I did run into another CTD doing something completely unrelated (closing an image on a different screen). If it would help to put my QA hat on for a while I'll see what I can do to break things. It might also be worth noting this is a (nearly) brand-new installation of Windows 10 Enterprise, which means it hasn't gotten too fouled up with a lot of crapware. The DCS installation is also brand new. I have since updated the video driver, which changes any results. For a while there were a few pixels missing from the center of the screen (not a blank area, the pixels on either side covered the missing area), something I first noticed playing DCS, but it would persist after quitting and required a reboot to fix. So far new nVidia drivers seem to have fixed that. The old video drivers are whatever I ended up with after installing Win10E and running all the updates, if that matters. i7-7700 4.2GHz (no overclocking) nVidia GTX 1080 (no overclocking) 32G RAM 2xSamsumg EVO 850 1TB SSDs (one for OS, one for DCS and...other software) 1x8TB spinny disk Boat loads of network attached drives (Synology RAID) 3 monitors (2x24", 1x27") If there's something else specific I can provide let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raisuli Posted June 24, 2019 Author Share Posted June 24, 2019 This is strange. I did the same thing and got the same behavior. On a computer?? Plug in an (old) Samsung 256GB SSD drive to USB port using a StarTech USB352SAT3CB cable. Start DCS. Pull USB cable from port: Faulting application name: DCS.exe, version: 2.5.5.32533, time stamp: 0x5d0a16cb Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 10.0.17763.592, time stamp: 0x0f1b8afd Exception code: 0xc0000374 Fault offset: 0x00000000000fb049 Faulting process id: 0xf70 Faulting application start time: 0x01d52add75a653fb Faulting application path: D:\DCS World\bin\DCS.exe Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll Report Id: ae0a825b-1b3b-4980-9d7f-df82622491bd Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I tried with 2 different USB drives, 1 x USB Stick and 1 x Samsung USB3 Adapter with a 750GB HDD, no crash could be provoked...and I tried hard. The only thing that happens is a brief stutter/stop if I unplug/plug/unplug... the HDD while in flight, but no CTD. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDEYE_CVW-66 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Same here... happened three, four times. Full crash. And not only with Unplugging, but plugging IN also. I have a headset, bluetooth wireless, but it sometimes needs charging mid-flight. Something is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I can plug in/out ANY of my USB devices and no crash. "Must" be motherboard/driver specific imho and not DCS related. Newest Bios, newest Intel Chipset drivers, newest drivers overall ?? Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasedtuna9 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 It seems to be only storage related devices for me. It happened with me plugging in my Tablet to charge, but doesn't happen when i plug in my headset to charge. Hotas and track IR don't trigger it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raisuli Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 I can plug in/out ANY of my USB devices and no crash. "Must" be motherboard/driver specific imho and not DCS related. Newest Bios, newest Intel Chipset drivers, newest drivers overall ?? Probably not DCS related. Jury is still out on the missing pixels (they came back), but my gut tells me that's not DCS either. ntdll.dll might be something DCS depends on, but they certainly didn't write it. I've been able to plug in/remove that same drive/cable combination with no trouble, I've had it all go south. Without more data to prove it I'm thinking more along the lines of USB subsystems than the applications running on top of the OS. The problem with Windows, actually the miracle, is that it works at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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