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Old 02-23-2018, 07:09 PM   #61
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Something is definitely not right and it is easy to reproduce.

For example:
Trim the helicopter a bit nose forward, 5-6 short presses or so trim forward. Then manually hold the cyclic aft to neutralise the input, exactly like if you would have done a trim reset. The helicopter will keep pitching back pointing the nose further and further up as long as you hold the cyclic back.

The same happens if you use the magnetic brake instead of the trim button.

If you do a trim reset it behaves correctly.

I don't have FFB enabled. Maybe this is already corrected in a patch, but if so it's not made it into the currently released version.
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:55 AM   #62
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The Gazelle is no longer trying to kill me. And it flies great.

I have recently done a clean Win 10 install and subsequent fresh DCS 2.5 install this week. So question is have any of the recently announced updates made it into the current version as of about 2 days ago?

If not that just means it will get even better again soon.
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Old 03-03-2018, 02:07 PM   #63
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The Gazelle is no longer trying to kill me. And it flies great.

I have recently done a clean Win 10 install and subsequent fresh DCS 2.5 install this week. So question is have any of the recently announced updates made it into the current version as of about 2 days ago?

If not that just means it will get even better again soon.

And all that long suffering time, trial and error wiped out by a clean install and subsequent fresh DCS 2.5 with the same FM.
Glad you sorted it.
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Old 03-03-2018, 09:41 PM   #64
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And all that long suffering time, trial and error wiped out by a clean install and subsequent fresh DCS 2.5 with the same FM.
Glad you sorted it.
Me too! I flew the Gazelle for like 5 hours yesterday taking my hand off the cyclic without fear it would roll or pitch into the ground, just because I could.

Yep now I'm back to being able to use mouse to switch stuff on or off just like it used to be but now the FM is even better, with more Gazelle goodness to come.

I am also back to no curves or dead spots and the Gazelle is a dream to fly straight and level and that's with AP off, it was always a dream to fly in any other mode, sideways backwards on it's side .

The other guys experiencing the issue I feel your pain, although I will point out that the Gazelle requires very very little cyclic input and because of that you might be very prone to pilot induced oscillation which might give you the sense of being twitchy. Even to the point if you have a centre detent joystick just overcoming the force of the centering mechanism might be enough to cause excessive input on cyclic, which of course you will need to correct.

I don't consider the Gazelle twitchy it's more like responsive and seriously less input is more control for the Gazelle (any helicopter really) so it might be worth dropping the saturation on X and Y down to maybe 40 to 50 % just to see how that goes and work back up as you get the hang of it.

If you think the Gazelle is twitchy try an R44 it's half the weight with just as sensitive cyclic talk about pilot induced oscillation.
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Old 03-04-2018, 07:15 PM   #65
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I got Gazelle too and is very hard to fly...A friend of mine that flies the Gazelle
in real life,told me that the flight model is totally unrealistic compering to the real thing.
I just hope for a Gazelle flight model update or something so we can enjoy this
great Heli.

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Old 03-04-2018, 08:55 PM   #66
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I got Gazelle too and is very hard to fly...A friend of mine that flies the Gazelle
in real life,told me that the flight model is totally unrealistic compering to the real thing.
I just hope for a Gazelle flight model update or something so we can enjoy this
great Heli.

Peace.
Hi Sir Gus what troubles are you having with the Gazelle?

For helicopter you really need pedals to operate as anti-torque control, some input to act as collective and of course cyclic. I know some people use keyboard but that is most definitely not for me.

If this is your first helicopter it can seem near impossible at first however trust me as you practice it will get better. Judging FM without reasonable controls might be unrealistic and flawed at best.

If you need assistance I and many others would be happy to help although it might be best to start a new thread as this one is specific to another issue it seems some people experience including me although I have solved it, well at least a complete fresh install fixed it.

As for enjoying the Gazelle I'd have to say the Gazelle gets a majority of my sim time it's quick but not the fastest helicopter, it's nimble and a lot of fun to fly.

Me goofing around in the Gazelle I fly all my heli 's like that.
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Old 03-07-2018, 02:19 PM   #67
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@Sir Gus

''...A friend of mine that flies the Gazelle
in real life,told me that the flight model is totally unrealistic compering to the real thing.''

If that is so; would your friend care to elaborate in detail how it compares to his experience in the real thing? Ask him to register on the forum so he can lay it down

@FragBum ....good to see you still enjoying some Gazelle time. My brother recently bought it as well so i can have a dedicated gunner now!
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:13 AM   #68
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@FragBum ....good to see you still enjoying some Gazelle time. My brother recently bought it as well so i can have a dedicated gunner now!
I have always enjoyed it, it's just at times I may have used harsh language on her.

Do you reckon your brother is up for being WO for me as well,..
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