3080 reviews are out

Not in my experience, as I've pointed out re 2080 Ti. There is usually a minor drop, but nothing significant in my experience. You may have a different experience.

But anyway, is it really worth hanging around for months to save maybe $100? Personally, I don't think so.

Not in my experience, as I've pointed out re 2080 Ti. There is usually a minor drop, but nothing significant in my experience. You may have a different experience.

 

But anyway, is it really worth hanging around for months to save maybe $100? Personally, I don't think so.

I'm a patient man. And it's not like I have nothing else but play DCS.

And I probably wont wait for the price to drop below current. I'll probably buy when it becomes available. My point was the price will settle back down when buying frenzy is over.

My point is that it has already 'settled down' to the price levels we would expect. Certainly from trusted retailers. £100-£200 above FE is normal for 3rd party boards. Seen it every generation for many years.

My point is that it has already 'settled down' to the price levels we would expect. Certainly from trusted retailers. £100-£200 above FE is normal for 3rd party boards. Seen it every generation for many years.

Maybe it's different in UK? Newegg here is still listing them as $699 and they'll stay that way when they restock.

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=rtx+3080

Maybe it's different in UK? Newegg here is still listing them as $699 and they'll stay that way when they restock.

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=rtx+3080

Well, they are basic boards, and are up to $750. They haven't listed the more advanced 3080 cards yet that are showing on other sites that attract the $100-$200 price difference.

Well, they are basic boards, and are up to $750. They haven't listed the more advanced 3080 cards yet that are showing on other sites that attract the $100-$200 price difference.

lol, isn't that what I said earlier?

They'll come out with higher spec ones with more cooling and OC and whatnot but will not discontinue current versions.

$750 ones are OC and better cooling and higher speed RAM. I obviously was talking about the basic boards when talking about $699 ones.

I said earlier that the higher quality chips and factory overclocking attract a premium price of £100-£200, but you said it was all a buying, hype frenzy.

Anyway, I can't believe we are in a 'he said, you said' type discussion here. Embarrassing really.

We will both see how things pan out in the next few months.

Gfx pipeline management isnt the only thing that costs you CPU cycles in DCS, you also have all of the other AI stuff..

So does that fact make using frame times to determine the bottleneck in a system problematic in DCS? Is CPU frame time only looking at graphics and not everything else that the CPU handles in a sim? The CPU frame time makes it seem a lot faster than it ends up.

Cpu frame time looks at the time that the cpu takes to respond to the request...so its take account of how busy the cpu is... If you have a shed load of background process that are active it will impact your cpu frame time...

The gpu frame time is how long the gpu takes to respond,

if you look at the steam frame time, that's the "worst of the two" (I think).

You seem hung up on the cpu frame time for reasons I don't understand, and actually I'm kind of past caring.

It will only ever be as fast as the worst component... So a cpu time of 1ms, will be important in feeding the graphics pipeline, but if the gpu is 20ms frame time, it does not matter how fast the cpu is, as it is bottle necked by the perf of the gpu.

What complicates things is the confirmed 20gb 3080 coming soon. Depending on the price hike I might be annoyed if already bought 10gb ver. So am happy to have shortage imposed delays.

You seem hung up on the cpu frame time for reasons I don't understand, and actually I'm kind of past caring.

This really is an honest question. There’s that other sim which just tells you if you are CPU or GPU limited. Really useful. Be great if we had that here too.

Yea talk about the 3080 not CPU limits

Yea talk about the 3080 not CPU limits

They’re actually both relevant, especially in DCS. On a single monitor anyways you’re perhaps getting into overkill territory with a 3080. I think even running a 1080Ti I was hitting that point in 4K with 2xAA. I don’t think I saw any improvement in DCS from upgrading to a 2080Ti. Other games yes but this on was topped out.

On a single monitor anyways you’re perhaps getting into overkill territory with a 3080.

likely true, but this is VR discussion ...

This really is an honest question. There’s that other sim which just tells you if you are CPU or GPU limited. Really useful. Be great if we had that here too.

For vr you can use fpsvr. I think it can be used with most headsets now, earlier it said ”WMR headsets only.

Its really good for tuming, and also for finding out which part it the limiting factor at each moment. Even more easy to understand than the limit info in FS2020.

I wonder if the bitcoin mining nightmare will occur again like in what was it, late 2017? That's why I want to grab a 3090 as soon as possible if at all possible, but I won't buy one from a scalper. They can DIAF and to be clear, I actually do mean that. :-) They're scum of the Earth.

i think Bitcoin miners wont, be interested in the cost return on a 3090

Scalpers sure will though and they are just as bad if not worse.

For vr you can use fpsvr. I think it can be used with most headsets now, earlier it said ”WMR headsets only.

Its really good for tuming, and also for finding out which part it the limiting factor at each moment. Even more easy to understand than the limit info in FS2020.

Isn't that only available via SteamVR? What about DCS played via Oculus app?

Just found this. DCS 3080 demo

No DCS settings listed unfortunately.

Just found this. DCS 3080 demo

 

 

Yes this is about what I expected. 90 fps in the air with both CPU and GPU frametime in the green zone. CPU FT goes into orange zone when flying near buildings, GPU FT stays green. This is better than what my current setup can achieve.

I only need 80 fps since I run my Valve Index at 80 Hz so it is very encouraging to see this type of results from a 8700/3080 combo.

Yeah I'm more interested in performance at low-level in the 3 o'clock & 9 o'clock views over high density areas. Also sitting on the Supercarrier.

I wonder if ED or even Wags were able to get a new card.

Just found this. DCS 3080 demo

 

No DCS settings listed unfortunately.

 

Vid author has listed settings and been discussing results in this thread:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=286339

Just found this. DCS 3080 demo

 

No DCS settings listed unfortunately.

 

 

See what was I saying about the CPU bottleneck? Anywhere with lots of objects like a city or near the ground the FPS is limited by the CPU.