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Old 02-24-2013, 02:50 AM   #1
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This is a first attempt to adding some glass in the A-10C cockpit for the HUD.

The cockpit model does not contain any glass although the exterior full 3D model does.

This mod hacks the HUD UI LUA scripts and draws 2 panes of glass. Its pretty minimal and is really only designed to give a slight tint and darkness to the world on the other side of the panes of glass. It does not do reflections or any other spiffy sort of thing you can think up of.

Readme.txt has info on adjusting the color and alpha for the glass.

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Finding the right shade/darkness was near impossible, Google either showed darn near transparent glass or fairly dark glass in my search results.

If anyone has a decent cockpit shot of an A-10 for reference and wants to go super anal and pixel f*ck what the real values should be please be my guest and post.

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Old 02-25-2013, 12:53 AM   #2
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While it's a cool idea, adding tint to the HUD glass is wrong.

Note the surrounding glass above the HUD. The center panel of glass on the front of the canopy is actually clearer than the surrounding glass, giving pilots as clear a view as possible without changing colors.

Adding tint to the HUD takes away this intended clear view.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:25 AM   #3
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It's not incorrect for a couple of reasons.

Glass isn't 100% transparent especially when viewing through 3 layers of it with a canopy and 2 panes of glass from the HUD.

Their are enough images on the Internet that show the HUD slightly darkens the light coming through. The reflective glass that catches the HUD projection.

Different colors from different glass.

F-18 Dark almost purple tint



A-10 tint


Because I was unabe to find a decent A-10 pic that is properly calibrated with a decent whitepoint and ISO I've not messed with the color much and mainly set it up for a 10% tint.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:37 AM   #4
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Real world it's not noticeable at all. I've got a few pictures but none of them relay correctly what it actually looks like.

The pictures below may look tinted but actually it's just gun gas on the center windscreen....the day I took these pictures I hadn't cleaned the windscreen yet.



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Noticeable and doesn't exist are not mutually the same thing.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:53 AM   #6
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Awesome looking pit, always thought it looked much to clean, not like it was used by the forces at all


Gun gas? wonder if that will ever make it i
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Noticeable and doesn't exist are not mutually the same thing.
Here's another A-10 HUD picture...


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Gun gas? wonder if that will ever make it i
Gun gas is a beast to get off, all it does is smear.
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:03 AM   #8
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Posting high contrast images with overblown highlights doesn't help the topic much.

The first two pics had completely different darkness levels in the yellow side windows because of the exposure. Just look at the sky.

If your pics had a piece of plain white paper on the aft piece of glass and another in front to calibrate as the WP that be something better to compare against then the unfortunate wildly varying exposed images.

It's their and not really a question, how much is whats the discussion. Saying it doesn't exist period is ignoring material science because glass is not 100% transparent.



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Old 02-25-2013, 04:14 AM   #9
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I agree with paulrkiii. The HUD glass in the F-16 and F-117 did not have a tint, they where highly reflective glass, but there was no tint to it. Just my opinion, you are more than welcome to add what ever tint you choose. Most photos, the color seen is from the reflection of the HUD projector/PDU glass. That glass did have tint. normally a green color. But the HUD glass itself has not tint.

But all said and done, we are talking semantics.
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I am looking at an older A-10A style HUD now that i have cleaned the dust off.
There is not visible tint (a color or a variety of a color; hue.)
There is a highly reflective coating on both panes of glass.
The only green i can see is on the bottom edge cut across the HUD glass as i pivot the unit away from me looking for smudges on the glass.
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