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Old 06-01-2020, 11:19 PM   #11
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I appreciate the suggestions, but I wouldn't want to get rid of any. We won't always be locked into 1944.
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Old 06-02-2020, 08:22 AM   #12
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I appreciate the suggestions, but I wouldn't want to get rid of any. We won't always be locked into 1944.
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Old 06-02-2020, 05:11 PM   #13
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I appreciate the suggestions, but I wouldn't want to get rid of any.
Okay. We can always obstruct them with wire and obstacles from the WW2 assets pack.



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We won't always be locked into 1944.
While I can perfectly understand ED's reluctance to disclose their plans, it means that we, the community, can only go off the information we have. There are three LW aircraft (A8, D9, K4) and my original post was pointing out that the announced airfields are not suitable for any of them. Likewise for the suggestions for alternatives (and even then, the problem is that the map area itself does not suit the D9 or K4). And the suggestions that I made were based on my best guess as to the timeline we'd have to work with. This was why I asked for more information about dates, aircraft, etc..



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{...} wish away guys if you have one you would like to see {...}
So, given the alreadty existing planeset, anticipating the P47D and DH98, assuming the FW190F8 is still being developed, looking for something suitable for both coalitions, and trying to guess a possible non-1944 era (Battle of France? Battle of Britain? Battle of Dieppe? Operation Steinbock?), and limited to "one" that I'd like to see, I'd recommend:


Rosières-en-Santerre

As a base:

Oct-1939 - May-1940 : No.57 RAF (Blenheim Mk.I)
Jun-1940 - Sep-1940 : Stab./KG1 (He111H), III./KG1 (He111H)
Jun-1940 - Nov-1940 : II./KG1 (He111H)
Mar-1941 - Jun-1941 : II./KG1 (Ju88A)
May-1941 - Jul-1941 : II./KG4 (He111H)
Nov-1942 - Feb-1943 : I./KG6 (Ju88A)
Oct-1943 - Mar-1944 : I./SKG10 (FW190A)
May-1944 - Jun-1944 : I./SKG10 (FW190A)
02? to 15-Aug-1944 : III./JG26 (Bf109G)
Feb-1945 - Apr-1945 : No.21 RAF, No.464 RAAF, No.487 RNZAF (DH98 )
May-1945 - Nov-1945 : 387th AEG (B-26)

As a target:

14-Jan-1944: low-level attack by VIII Fighter Command P-47 Thunderbolts –claimed 2 x Fw 190s shot up and damaged.
06-Feb-1944: bombed by 9th AAF B-26 Marauders.
28-Feb-1944: bombed by 9th AAF B-26 Marauders.
02-Mar-1944: bombed by 9th AAF B-26 Marauders.
03-Mar-1944: bombed by 9th AAF medium bombers (probably B-26s) 5 aircraft shelters destroyed/damaged but runways and landing area unaffected.
12-Jun-1944: LW reported 6 of I./SKG 10’s Fw 190s destroyed and 5 damaged during Allied air attack.
18-Aug-1944: low-level attack by VIII Fighter Command P-51s claimed 1 xFw 190 damaged.
25-Aug-1944: bombed and strafed by 9th AAF P-38 Lightnings runways, hangars, buildings and fuel dumps hit.

References:

http://www.ww2.dk/Airfields%20-%20France.pdf
https://www.ww2.dk/air/attack/skg10.htm
https://www.ww2.dk/air/kampf/kg1.htm
https://military.wikia.org/wiki/No._21_Squadron_RAF
https://www.ww2.dk/air/jagd/jg26.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._464_Squadron_RAAF
https://www.ww2.dk/misc/ob13840.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosier...terre_Airfield
https://www.ww2.dk/air/kampf/kg4.htm
https://www.ww2.dk/air/kampf/kg6.htm
http://www.stormofwar.org/phpBB3/vie...t=7048&p=54760
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._57_Squadron_RAF



But, seriously, this is just a best guess at a suitable airfield, trying to be as flexible as possible, as adaptable as possible and in the absence of any ideas as to what ED plans and intentions are. No doubt others will have other suggestions too.

What a few (possibly very few) of us are trying to achieve with DCS is WW2 history. This means historical missions, with historical aircraft, scenarios and locations. We appreciate that there are limited aircraft assets, as a result of the extreme detail and immense developmental effort required. Thus we are merely trying to help avoid misdirected valuable development effort by catching errors and anachronisms in advance.
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Old 06-02-2020, 11:24 PM   #14
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The toughest part about our plans is they were 100% impacted by RRG's path.

We are still fulfilling the Kickstarter promises with the Jug and Me 262. Those are awesome aircraft but yet, the RRG plan was all over the board.

SO are real plan right now is to get those promises fulfilled as best we can and the forge out from there. DCS is a sandbox and takes a lot of time to develop for, as we have all seen. To pin us to one era or a specific historic time frame is hard to do (again especially where we were set in motion towards RRG).

I think you will see more variants of existing aircraft made, like the 190A, I believe we will see a 109 variant in the not so distant future. I think we will see some BoB aircraft eventually, all these are much easier to build with the core modules we have now.

We also have to consider the Pacific, there is a free WWII map coming there that will need aircraft and assets.

Back to the map though. I want as many airfields I can beg borrow or steal to get put int there, without making management mad at me I have a bunch of airfields added to my list and I will be requesting them, and not just the French side either. Mission editors need as many choices as they can, then we can have more historical like missions, I think we can do some fun pre-invasion stuff, limited post-invasion, the K-4 is a bit of a pain, but I hope that can be sorted at some point.

And even if you can't find it 100% historical, the map will be a blast for what-ifs or fantasy battles, so try not to be so stuck on historical, although I know it's important as well. We will get there as we flush out DCS WWII more and more.
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Old 06-02-2020, 11:58 PM   #15
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I believe we will see a 109 variant in the not so distant future.



Sounds great.

In the meantime Battle of Britain II 1946 sounds not too terrible.
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Old 06-03-2020, 05:16 AM   #16
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The grass strip airfields around Wissant please if possible?
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Old 06-03-2020, 05:17 AM   #17
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And for near future ? Airfields around Brussels and Deurne Antwerp
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Old 06-03-2020, 06:33 AM   #18
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The toughest part about our plans is they were 100% impacted by RRG's path.

We are still fulfilling the Kickstarter promises with the Jug and Me 262. Those are awesome aircraft but yet, the RRG plan was all over the board.

SO are real plan right now is to get those promises fulfilled as best we can and the forge out from there. DCS is a sandbox and takes a lot of time to develop for, as we have all seen. To pin us to one era or a specific historic time frame is hard to do (again especially where we were set in motion towards RRG).

I think you will see more variants of existing aircraft made, like the 190A, I believe we will see a 109 variant in the not so distant future. I think we will see some BoB aircraft eventually, all these are much easier to build with the core modules we have now.

We also have to consider the Pacific, there is a free WWII map coming there that will need aircraft and assets.

Back to the map though. I want as many airfields I can beg borrow or steal to get put int there, without making management mad at me I have a bunch of airfields added to my list and I will be requesting them, and not just the French side either. Mission editors need as many choices as they can, then we can have more historical like missions, I think we can do some fun pre-invasion stuff, limited post-invasion, the K-4 is a bit of a pain, but I hope that can be sorted at some point.

And even if you can't find it 100% historical, the map will be a blast for what-ifs or fantasy battles, so try not to be so stuck on historical, although I know it's important as well. We will get there as we flush out DCS WWII more and more.
Sounds great Nineline, we all would like a more in line map with the aircraft we have now but if those are really your future plans, I understand better why you choose this setting. However, I still hope for a future central European map that can fit the later war planes.

I am also a guy who is all in with fictional escenarios although having the possibility of being historically accurate is great as well. Many players always mention the other sim, but even there all servers have 'What If' missions because at the end of the day these sims are sandboxes so let the imagination fly and exploit this.
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Sounds great Nineline, we all would like a more in line map with the aircraft we have now but if those are really your future plans, I understand better why you choose this setting. However, I still hope for a future central European map that can fit the later war planes.

I am also a guy who is all in with fictional escenarios although having the possibility of being historically accurate is great as well. Many players always mention the other sim, but even there all servers have 'What If' missions because at the end of the day these sims are sandboxes so let the imagination fly and exploit this.
Yeah, 100% I would like to see us move deeper into Europe for sure.
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