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Old 09-13-2012, 12:11 PM   #221
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Thank you for the info.

I don't know what you disagree about, though? I was saying that I will buy only complete campaigns in future, which I think is quite fair enough.

It has nothing to do with the amount charged, or the quality of the work, so I don't know why you have said that.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:53 PM   #222
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I mostly disagreed with the fact that there are free third-party campaign missions as good, or even better, than the paid ones. At least, nobody provided us with a link in this thread )))

The rest is quite understood, no questions.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:03 PM   #223
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I mostly disagreed with the fact that there are free third-party campaign missions as good, or even better, than the paid ones. At least, nobody provided us with a link in this thread )))

The rest is quite understood, no questions.
If that was directed to me, you must understand I talking about sims in general, not just DCS.

I am still too new to DCS, and have only DL'd Bigfoot's traning missions. Another option to those are paid ones. I think the ones I used are brilliant. From what I gather, not missing much compared to paid ones.

Maybe my mind will change later. Who knows. Anyway good too see there is more coming from you guys. It will obviously make lots of people happy to hear. Good luck.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:16 PM   #224
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I've been thinking about this and I came to wonder why, if the next 20 missions were complete, that they were not released for sale, too? If the 1/20 part is still for sale for BS 1.0.2, then why not release the 2/20 that was ready for 1.0.2 as well?

We can only fly the 1/20 on 1.0.2 - surely it doesn't really make sense to then fly 2/20 in BS2 or DCSW?

Or is the 1/20 part also being updated to BS2 standard?
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:47 PM   #225
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This is exactly the point.

If we go for 1.0.2. - it means we release it for an outdated version and at some point in the future we will have to update it for DCSW. Update means re-doing every mission from scratch to avoid any errors and to use the new functionality like plot branching (which in its turn, requires recording alternative talks in the studio, testing each scenario, etc.). Besides, how many are now flying Black Shark 1.0.2 when you have BS2 and DCSW?

If we go for BS2 - this is not the latest version. Same as above - waste of time and effort.

The perfect solution is to develop VG 2/10 and update VG 1/10 for that version of DCSW that will be announced by the developers as final or as such that will not face deep refurbishments in the near future. AFAIK, another update is coming for the World which will possibly bring changes to the simulator engine. As the development of each release takes several months, we want to be sure than nothing will substantially change during and within reasonable time after the development stage.

So we're waiting for the news from developers. Simple as that.
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:12 PM   #226
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Ha ha - like everyone else!

I was just wondering, as on my last recent visit to the Vergeev website, 1/20 was still for sale for 1.0.2, so I guessed why not?
I still have 1.0.2 installed, specifically for the older missions and this campaign.

I think the reason we see so few missions released for DCSW and the two v1.1.1.1 releases is because ED/DCS change compatibility with each patch. I think they are slowly killing off the indie mission making scene.

I only make small missions for myself - mostly to practice one procedure or another. I have little incentive to go further into complex mission making as it may well change any time and I'd be back at square one.

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Old 09-14-2012, 01:42 PM   #227
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Ha ha - like everyone else!

I was just wondering, as on my last recent visit to the Vergeev website, 1/20 was still for sale for 1.0.2, so I guessed why not?
I still have 1.0.2 installed, specifically for the older missions and this campaign.

I think the reason we see so few missions released for DCSW and the two v1.1.1.1 releases is because ED/DCS change compatibility with each patch. I think they are slowly killing off the indie mission making scene.

I only make small missions for myself - mostly to practice one procedure or another. I have little incentive to go further into complex mission making as it may well change any time and I'd be back at square one.
Same is true for those that would build a good in-depth payware compaign.

First I think the reason we see so few campaigns (like none) for DCSW is that there is no way to protect against redistruction of the files. It is not stand-alone software that can be installed in conjunction with some keygen installer software, it is just a bunch of files that are placed in a folder. Some developers recognize this and they don't think it is a huge problem, others aren't so sure.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:04 AM   #228
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I think the reason we see so few missions released for DCSW and the two v1.1.1.1 releases is because ED/DCS change compatibility with each patch. I think they are slowly killing off the indie mission making scene.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:32 AM   #229
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Eh? Missions made pre A-10C are still compatible with A-10C+. Sure it might take some work to make it compatible(ALL with AI tasking), its not like it ISN'T compatible and you can't use previous work...
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:14 PM   #230
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is there anyway to play the campaign in 1.2.2? Bought it a long time ago. thnx
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