JNASova Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) Again, link please. That is, a link to an USAF Phantom pilot who flew in Vietnam, and said that 2 Phantoms were shot down for every MiG-21 shot down in dogfights during the Vietnam war. Read more carefully. SSSR clame it was 2:1,not 1:2 as USAF clame. USAF pilots said if thay had to get back thry the time,and do everything again,thay vould prefer to be in MIG 21,than F 4 cocpit.They also argued that it is the opinion of the vast majority of pilots.I am not shure did I watch that interview at Discavery or youtube,but soppose that interview can be found at youtube. I cant get more clear than this. Edited April 20, 2014 by =JNA=Sova Смрт фашизму,слобода народу! www.jna.site50.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubblebeam Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Its funny, why are you guys talking about Mig-23 if they can not finish Mig-21 on time , its kind of strange to see this one here. first finish Mig-21 and then start talking about Mig-23 otherwise its really irritating, no offence This. Same thing with Razbam. Good Grief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 What does it mean BFM? BFM=Basic Fighter Maneuvers/Maneuvering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrim Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Read more carefully. SSSR clame it was 2:1,not 1:2 as USAF clame. USAF pilots said if thay had to get back thry the time,and do everything again,thay vould prefer to be in MIG 21,than F 4 cocpit.They also argued that it is the opinion of the vast majority of pilots.I am not shure did I watch that interview at Discavery or youtube,but soppose that interview can be found at youtube. I cant get more clear than this. The SSSR also claimed that the Germans were behind Katyn, so excuse me if I don't believe them. If you can't get any clearer than "the soviets/Internet said it", I'm gonna go ahead and conclude that there's absolutely zero basis for your claim that the MiG-21 was superior to the Phantom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I think a MiG-23 would be great. What does it mean BFM? DCS MiG 23 vould be nice to fly.It is true there is no right oponent.So fine solution vould be DCS F5.In my opinion it is right oponent for DCS MiG 21 and DCS MiG 23. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USARStarkey Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 What does it mean BFM? DCS MiG 23 vould be nice to fly.It is true there is no right oponent.So fine solution vould be DCS F5.In my opinion it is right oponent for DCS MiG 21 and DCS MiG 23. Of Course you think the F-5 is the perfect opponent. You want to put a dinky little light fighter that is 3-500mph slower, and has little or no radar against the main 2nd and 3rd Gen soviet fighters. Extremely well matched. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Weed Be gone Needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNASova Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Of Course you think the F-5 is the perfect opponent. You want to put a dinky little light fighter that is 3-500mph slower, and has little or no radar against the main 2nd and 3rd Gen soviet fighters. Extremely well matched. In 1970, Northrop won the International Fighter Aircraft (IFA) competition to replace the F-5A, with better air-to-air performance against aircraft like the Soviet MiG-21. The resultant aircraft, initially known as F-5A-21, subsequently became the F-5E. It had more powerful (5,000 lbf) General Electric J85-21 engines, and had a lengthened and enlarged fuselage, accommodating more fuel. Its wings were fitted with enlarged leading edge extensions, giving an increased wing area and improved maneuverability. The aircraft's avionics were more sophisticated, crucially including a radar (initially the Emerson Electric AN/APQ-153) (the F-5A and B had no radar). It retained the gun armament of two M39 cannon, one on either side of the nose) of the F-5A. Various specific avionics fits could be accommodated at customer request, including an inertial navigation system, TACAN and ECM equipment.[17] And again,F 4 is two seat plane.Maby you vould like F 4 with AIM 120C agais MiG 21 BiS and MiG 23.Soppose that vould be fair fight for you. Edited April 21, 2014 by =JNA=Sova Смрт фашизму,слобода народу! www.jna.site50.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Groove Posted April 21, 2014 ED Team Share Posted April 21, 2014 I want this thread back on track, thanks. NO POLITICS! Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNASova Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Beczl said; "Mig 21 soon will be completed,next project is MiG 23."Now,Beczl is out,situation remain the same? MiG 21 BiS developer said thay allreday started new project,so it means thay allredy started to work at MiG 23? Смрт фашизму,слобода народу! www.jna.site50.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Beczl said; "Mig 21 soon will be completed,next project is MiG 23."Now,Beczl is out,situation remain the same? MiG 21 BiS developer said thay allreday started new project,so it means thay allredy started to work at MiG 23? No, we have not started to work on a MiG-23. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudikoff Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 No, we have not started to work on a MiG-23. Have you considered making a Kickstarter or IndieGoGo campaign for e.g. the MiG-23? Naturally, after the MiG-21 is released so you can use it as a reference in the other project. If you're not convinced if it would sell well enough, this could provide a straight answer. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Have you considered making a Kickstarter or IndieGoGo campaign for e.g. the MiG-23? Naturally, after the MiG-21 is released so you can use it as a reference in the other project. If you're not convinced if it would sell well enough, this could provide a straight answer. I think the decision has already been made mate. I am excited to learn what the future holds for Leatherneck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_Smiles Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 No, we have not started to work on a MiG-23. Can't say I'm surprised to hear that, with things changing internally I figured the roadmap initially set out with has changed. Well it isn't the MiG-23, so I'm starting to lean towards it being Su-17/22 :D Have you considered making a Kickstarter or IndieGoGo campaign for e.g. the MiG-23? Naturally, after the MiG-21 is released so you can use it as a reference in the other project. If you're not convinced if it would sell well enough, this could provide a straight answer. I think it was their announcement post where they said they didn't want to try crowdfunding again for awhile until they got back trust (though could have been in the chit chat thread about the 21 instead). So I don't think we'll see a KS or IndieGoGo from Leatherneck anytime soon. Things could change though, obviously that is their call. "Hurled headlong flaming from the ethereal sky; With hideous ruin and combustion down; To bottomless perdition, there to dwell; In adamantine chains and penal fire" (RIG info is outdated, will update at some point) i5 @3.7GHz (OC to 4.1), 16GB DDR3, Nvidia GTX 970 4GB, TrackIR 5 & TrackClip Pro, TM Warthog HOTAS, VKB T-Rudder Mk.IV, Razer Blackshark Headset, Obutto Ozone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Mig-27 Video with A-G and road Take-off and landing Training [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 A MiG-23 is a natural choice because it would share roughly 60-70% code commonality with the MiG-21. Essentially; with complete artwork the development timeframe would be shortened to a maximum of 6 months. (!) Therefore it does remain as a very attractive option in the medium-term future; but we have already decided (and poured a LOT of work into) our next endeavour. :) Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mambo Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 And the winner is...Come on!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mambo Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 And the winner is...Come on!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mambo Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 And the winner is...Come on!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 a Mig-19? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven68 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Bring on the Harrier!!! Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6(Assume the latest driver version) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 10 Professional Oculus Rift-S /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axion Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Or Tornado! Asus Z390 Code XI, i9-9900K, RAM 32 Gig Corsair Vengeance @ 3200, RTX 2080 TI FE, TIR 5, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB, HOTAS WH, ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q, HTC Vive Pro, Win 10 x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akatsuki Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 a Mig-19? :D A MiG-15, 17 or 19, or all three of them would be sooooo cool. I can dream. Can i ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger66 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 a Mig-19? :D http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/665348/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djent33 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I get the drift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans-Joachim Marseille Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) ... but we have already decided (and poured a LOT of work into) our next endeavour. :)Let me guess ... for MiG-23 you need swept wing code, so ... Edited July 4, 2014 by Hans-Joachim Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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