CBenson89 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I know this is gonna be contentious but who here uses auto start? I literally never use it for any aircraft because I feel like it defeats the purpose of playing a game like this. If I want to auto start I’ll go play arma or ace combat or something. I love bringing the jet and it’s systems to life. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Big.Biggs Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Which is it then, a sim or a game?? I9 (5Ghz turbo)2080ti 64Gb 3200 ram. 3 drives. A sata 2tb storage and 2 M.2 drives. 1 is 1tb, 1 is 500gb. Valve Index, Virpil t50 cm2 stick, t50 base and v3 throttle w mini stick. MFG crosswind pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) I have a full-time job, cook and clean for myself, and regularly go to the gym and enjoy other hobbies. During the work season there just isn't time for "proper" starts, so I either do an auto start or a hot ramp start most of the time. During vacation periods when I have more free time I'll do full cold starts. The argument against auto starts or hot starts purely boils down to gate-keeping arrogance, i.e. "I'm better than those auto start plebs." Same with the sim vs. game argument. Are you using this simulator to train to real life? No? Then it technically isn't a simulator in the true sense, especially when you consider that "simulator" could apply to DCS, Xplane, P3D, FS2020, yet the difference in fidelity among these titles is quite large. Edited September 6, 2020 by Nealius 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpeXB Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Sometimes for just training or time constraint reasons I’ll auto start and time accelerate. But most real DCS missions or campaign missions are so long that the startup time is inconsequential. Sometimes for a particular quick mission I might want to rerun or something it’s worthwhile. Generally I like the full start as it’s all immersive etc. i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | 24GB GeForce RTX 4090 | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andartu Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Always cold start, never used auto start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I always autostart and never manual start 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundun92 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I use both tbh, but I like manual start overall. For the F-16/18 I almost always manual start it, for the Mirage I autostart, simply because I havent bothered to learn it yet. TBH one of the main reasons I dislike the autostart it how inefficient it is. Being an airquake/air combat/BVR guy I really dont care for the full complete startups, its just not what I play for. I can literally start the F-16 in 30 sec manually, the Hornet under a minute (excluding INS alignment). Meanwhile the autostart seems to take forever. Just my 2c 1 Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Always Cold Start. It’s part of the fun. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxthrust Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I have done all the cold starts I meant to do during my msfs flying days. I love the simplicity of FC3 planes, it's rather convenient if you get shot down a lot like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vigilante87 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I have a full-time job, cook and clean for myself, and regularly go to the gym and enjoy other hobbies. During the work season there just isn't time for "proper" starts, so I either do an auto start or a hot ramp start most of the time. During vacation periods when I have more free time I'll do full cold starts. The argument against auto starts or hot starts purely boils down to gate-keeping arrogance, i.e. "I'm better than those auto start plebs." Same with the sim vs. game argument. Are you using this simulator to train to real life? No? Then it technically isn't a simulator in the true sense, especially when you consider that "simulator" could apply to DCS, Xplane, P3D, FS2020, yet the difference in fidelity among these titles is quite large. 100% this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LASooner Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 How often I do auto start is directly proportional to how much time I have to myself.... yadda yadda yadda, I auto start quite a bit. F-14B, F-16, F-18C, A-10C, F-5E, F-86, FC3, BF-109, FW-190, P-51, Spitfire, UH-1,AJS-37 Viggen, MIG-15, MIG-19, MIG-21, AV-8B Harrier, P-47D Persian Gulf, Caucuses, NTTR, Normandy, The Channel, Syria Combined Arms, WWII Assets,Super Carrier TM Warthog, Virpil VFX,BuddyFox UFC, Saitek Pro Flight quadrant & Switch Panel, Odyssey+ VR, Jet Pad w/ SSA, Voice Attack w/Viacom Pro GeForce RTX2080TI OC, Intel Core i7-7700K 4.5Ghz, 64GB DDR4, Dedicated 1TB SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Cold start only on official missions considered serious. For dedicated testing or training, I can even appear already in the air or on the ground with the engines running. But automatic start, no. https://launionescuadron.webnode.es/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lange_666 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 When the A-10C came out i always cold started the thing but since then a lot of modules were added and i can't remember each and one of those startup sequences, especially when i don't fly them for a long time (i'm way beyond 51 already, things don't get any easier). So auto-start it became most of the time. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind combat pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterH Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I am probably one of the greatest flight model and system realism snobs, and I use auto start. Used to not, but that was in a period when I did not have one full time and one part time job, as well as personal projects, other hobbies, and almost every aircraft module. It doesn't defeat the purpose indeed. The purpose of having aircraft with as realistic flight models, systems, and where applicable also weapons as possible remains very much intact. Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 6, 2020 ED Team Share Posted September 6, 2020 I use auto start a lot, while it is happening I can get other stuff done or fetch a drink. Play however you like :) Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I don't own all modules, but in the ones I do, putting immersion and whatnot aside, starting them manually is actually much faster, so I stick with it. I'm mostly a warbird guy, however. I suppose things might be different for modern jet players. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=4c=Nikola Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I do manual starts because they are faster. If I need hot aircraft, I just set it that way in ME. Do not expect fairness. The times of chivalry and fair competition are long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxTwo Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I don't really use autostart because for most of the modules I can go from cold to hot faster than autostart can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wju Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 auto start almost always i7-7820X@4.5Ghz; GPU 3080Ti, 64GB RAM, HP Reverb G2; VKB Ultimate stick; VIRPIL Throttle; Slaw Pedals; custom AX&BTN BOX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbot Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Always cold start on the A-10C. Autostart quite often on the other modules. A-10A, A-10C, A-10C II, AV-8B, F-5E, F-16C, F/A-18C, F-86F, Yak-52, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria, Supercarrier, Combined Arms, FW 190 A-8, FW 190 D-9, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, Normandy + WWII Assets Pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=4c=Nikola Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Btw, if you do not use autostart and autostop, you can rewrite macros to do something more useful. Do not expect fairness. The times of chivalry and fair competition are long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_sukebe Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 One of the joys of DCS, ie it allows pilots to chose. If other players use auto start, that’s fine by me. As for myself, I don’t actually know how to auto start. System: 9700, 64GB DDR4, 2070S, NVME2, Rift S, Jetseat, Thrustmaster F18 grip, VPC T50 stick base and throttle, CH Throttle, MFG crosswinds, custom button box, Logitech G502 and Marble mouse. Server: i5 2500@3.9Ghz, 1080, 24GB DDR3, SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 This is like asking people how they like their tea. I think the statement behind it, is, "How clever do I feel" which is a bit silly. Go do it with every single module and it's still not some sort of feat. Its highly useful, let me share a couple of normal, not so "I'm clever remebering a 40 keypress sequence" 1) It's actually useful for recalling which way all your switches are set. Not all modules have good setups for cold and dark, going through the cold start gets you to look a good way around the cockpit and makes you think of things that cannot be setup. Good example, A-A waypoint for the F-18, what actually is the Bullseye for today? Asking that question before you start is better than asking it whilst defending a missile. 2) It's a good refresher on the placement of the switches. Like many folks, if you are using lots of the modules in DCS, some have common themes and others put things in places you dont expect. So the startup sequence is a short period of acclimitisation. It goes places you dont always have time to look at, keeps your brain wired into the aircraft layout and covers a deeper set of switchology. All the debate about sim vs game are redundant. Often the case the aircraft in many countries and type is started for a pilot anyway, there's way too much missed out to begin to start the comparisons here, but, it IS useful. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldpop Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 starts When I first get a new a/c I'll go with "full starts"--once! After that it is a waste of time in both SP and MP. :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glide Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) I start hot or on the runway. Ramp start is like an EULA; one wrong answer and you can't play. Edited September 6, 2020 by glide clarity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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