AACQ not displaying L&S symbol and doesn't perform NCTR

When you STT via castle right (AACQ) with TDC over a contact, the L&S star indication isn't shown on the attack radar format. It does, however, show when you use TDC depress to STT.

L&S symbol.miz.trk

Edited May 12, 2019 by Jak525

Yeah, I noticed that too.

AACQ not displaying L&S symbol and doesn't perform NCTR

 

If a target is locked with AACQ, the target rank is not replaced by the L&S star on the RDR page; instead, the rank simply disappears and only the top part of the HAFU symbol remains (chevron, staple etc). However, the L&S star shows up on the SA page.

 

Furthermore, if a target is locked with AACQ instead of the TDC, although the radar is in STT mode, it does not perform NCTR on the target. The SA page continues to display Unknown.

 

Tested on OB 2.5.4.30386, Caucasus map, air start, no mods.

Track attached.

FA-18C_AACQ_noL&S_noNCTR.trk

Please merge my thread with this thread which details this and a related issue further:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=240855

I had a similar experience.

I was doing some ACM combat training missions and was not able get IFF ID on targets lock on my radar with the sensor depress switch.. In short, I committed my first francitide ever by shooting down my wingman.

A case of 2 Su3 vs 2 Hornet.

 

Does it require a second lock to STT(second lock) in ACM to get IFF on a lock target? In my case I did not do a second lock.

 

I would have to do the mission again and check with a second lock.

This may be problematic. Under LTWS, select the target to execute IFF. If AACQ is direct, there is no IFF.

I had a similar experience.

I was doing some ACM combat training missions and was not able get IFF ID on targets lock on my radar with the sensor depress switch.. In short, I committed my first francitide ever by shooting down my wingman.

A case of 2 Su3 vs 2 Hornet.

 

Does it require a second lock to STT(second lock) in ACM to get IFF on a lock target? In my case I did not do a second lock.

 

I would have to do the mission again and check with a second lock.

 

 

I haven't had problems running IFF on bandits I locked with ACM, provided they were still somewhat in front of my nose.

 

You have the IFF antennas at the nose (also called bird slicers), so you won't be able to run an IFF interrogation if the bandit is at a high aspect angle, which is common during dogfights.

I haven't had problems running IFF on bandits I locked with ACM, provided they were still somewhat in front of my nose.

 

You have the IFF antennas at the nose (also called bird slicers), so you won't be able to run an IFF interrogation if the bandit is at a high aspect angle, which is common during dogfights.

I have always had the notion this was not a bug but something I fail to do or remember on my part. So combining mode 4 interrogation with ntcr to get enemy print, the target needs to be at an offset of 30 degrees of my aircraft. It clicks now remembering that from Wag's video.

 

Roger that Harker, thanks and Wilco.

Hi,

NCTR don't work in all ACM mode but it must work no?

 

 

Best regards

Additional information for this bug -- when not using LTWS, the L&S star does show up on the RDR ATTK regardless of whether the STT was obtained by TDC depress or AACQ.

Hi,

NCTR don't work in all ACM mode but it must work no?

I'm not sure if it does IRL, but I guess it should. You're locking the target in STT, at the end of the day.

 

Don't forget that NCTR requires that the radar sees the target from ±30° aspect from the front or back, for a few seconds. During ACM, this could be hard to achieve.

AACQ does not perform NCTR

 

Furthermore, if a target is locked with AACQ instead of the TDC, although the radar is in STT mode, it does not perform NCTR on the target. The SA page continues to display Unknown.

Track attached.

 

 

*Bump*

 

Noticed this today as well, on all maps in the Hornet. AACQ locks to STT do not produce a NCTR result.