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Old 10-23-2019, 03:04 AM   #661
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Not at all excited by a hind. As others have said, long ways off anyways. The new pit and variant of ka50 will be much better.
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Old 10-25-2019, 05:18 PM   #662
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According to las ED post on facebook about new A-10 cockpit I get a little sad... A-10 cockpit will be sooner than Ka-50 cockpit, every western aircraft will be sooner than eastern aircraft and everything will be sooner than Mi-24. I put my whole strength to not believe that is a purpose
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:23 PM   #663
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Think of it this way:

When we do get the Mi-24 E.D. will have released 3 Russian helicopters, of which 2 are attack helicopters, and only 1 Western helicopter and zero Western attack helicopters
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:25 PM   #664
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Not really.
West : UH-1H; SA 342M,L
East : Mi-8; Ka-50

Both side attack & transport helo. With Mi-24, only one more for east.
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Old 10-26-2019, 04:42 AM   #665
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Gazelle is a light armed scout helo. Not really a dedicated attack helo, even if it can be used to deliver the boom boom. What we lack is a Western heavy attack helo. Like the KA 50 or Mi 24. Big difference in not just capability but mission types.

On a side note, IIIRC the US army has retired it's light armed scout help (Kiowa), with role being taken up by Apaches and RPVs for now. I believe there is a competition ongoing for the us scout help role.

So funny how DCS world jets are so US/west centric/heavy but helps are East centric
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Old 10-26-2019, 11:20 AM   #666
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Quote:
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Not really.
West : UH-1H; SA 342M,L
East : Mi-8; Ka-50

Both side attack & transport helo. With Mi-24, only one more for east.
The SA 342 is not an ED product.
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Old 10-27-2019, 11:42 AM   #667
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As QuiGon said, I wrote "E.D. will have released..."
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Old 10-27-2019, 12:39 PM   #668
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ED or others 3rd parties...
It's a fact that for the moment we have only one real attack helicopter : The Ka-50.
Others (Gazelle, UH-1, Mi-8 and even BO-105 or the possible Kiowa) can be equipped with different weapons systems but have limited capabilities.

The Mi-24 will normally be the second real attack helicopters in DCS and I can understand that some people are asking for a western attack helicopter.
The only one mentionned by Wags was the AH-1 but seems to be on "hold on" status.

For me it's a fact that attack helos were not the priority of ED.
12 years after the release of the KA-50 module, we are still waiting for another real attack helicopter.

The figures speak for themselves
DCS (or others) available helicopter modules : 4
DCS (or others) available modern aircraft modules : more than 12
DCS (or others) WWII/Prop aircraft modules : 6 + Christen Eagle & YAK-52

So I really hope that ED will finally be able to start working on the successor of the KA-50 and that we can enjoy a real new attack helicopter.
My preference is clearly for the Mi-24 but the AH-1 could be a very intersting alternative.


Let's go for 2020 !

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Old 10-27-2019, 01:10 PM   #669
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KA-50 is the current only Attack helicopter, but all others are Combat helicopters as much as KA-50 is. While the Mi-8 would receive a western designation U as Utility helicopter, it is still a combat helicopter.

Even considering a Mi-8TV had AT missiles, it wasn't an attack helicopter, regardless it could perform such task at required.

The similar thing is with UH-1H and Gazelle etc. Combat helicopters but not attack helicopters. Not capable to perform a frontline attack or even defense, but capable support troops on ground and transport them with supporting capability.

Mi-24 is very much needed to fill the actual attack helicopter position,as KA-50 while it was meant to replace Mi-24 fleet, it became primarily as recon helicopter at first like our version in DCS is, more like what a OH-58 Kiowa is. But with armor.

KA-52 is more like actual attack helicopter, not because two pilots but because glass cockpit that KA-50 received too, but just didn't go too mass production.

And so on Mi-24 will be REDFOR only attack helicopter at release.
Same as AH-1 once it comes out as well for BLUFOR.

One day when we have AH-1S, UH-1H, Mi-24P and Mi-8MTv2, e real combat can start. And then OH-58 and KA-50 will be filling their roles as recon helicopters.

The Mi-24 greatness as gunship is that there ain't similar in BLUFOR side, but similar is with KA-50.
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Old 11-01-2019, 03:10 PM   #670
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01 Nov 19 : DCS WE News
"Mi-24: UV mapping of the pilot’s cockpit is almost done and then we will spend about a month working on the animations and textures. The flight model is near 80% complete"

The project is progressing and that's good news.
Thx to NineLine to forward such Update
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