WelshZeCorgi Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 As the title says, though I don't know if I've ever saw over wing vapor on a A-10 but it should happen in certain conditions, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Vapor yes, flex no. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshZeCorgi Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 Why would there be no wing flex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxOne007 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Why would there be no wing flex? Because of how the wing is structured internally? It is a lot thicker/stronger than the wings of say an F-18 or F-16. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshZeCorgi Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) Because of how the wing is structured internally? It is a lot thicker/stronger than the wings of say an F-18 or F-16. That doesn't mean it wouldn't bend AT ALL. You could assume it wouldn't bend much but to say it wouldn't bend at all sounds absurd. It's still made out of aluminum, not tungsten. As anecdotal is it may be, I've worked alongside vets of the first Iraq war and one commented on how the wings on the A10s always looked like they were folding up whenever they pulled out of their attack runs. I'm inclined to believe his "folding up" description to be an embellishment, but otherwise he described wing flex on an A10. And other members on the forum have described observing wing flex as well, at airshows with the A10, to the point that they describe panels popping off the wing, canceling the A10 from further participating in the airshow that day. So am I saying that they need to flex 90 degrees in a 10 degree bank turn? No. Should they flex a little? I don't see why not. Edited August 10, 2020 by WelshZeCorgi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinozherous Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 In this video there is not that much external load on the wings it seems, but the wings are really not that flexible... I also expected them more flexing. i7-14700KF 5.6GHz Water Cooled /// ZOTAC RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB /// 32GB RAM DDR5 /// Win11 /// SSDs only DCS - XP12 - MSFS2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Warthog wings do not flex. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshZeCorgi Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) Warthog wings do not flex. 00:30-00:58 once again, stating that they do not move much, but they do flex. Seems like a demo, so no weight on pylons, probrably not fully fuel, saving weight, and weather appears to be rather clear and calm. (also probrably not pulling the same amount of Gs one would expect an A10C would in order to avoid fire.) Edited August 25, 2020 by WelshZeCorgi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Everything flexes under stress... Either that, or it breaks... But, given the fact that the A-10 wings flex is so minimal one can't (really) see it, I'd personally say, spending anything more than 1 hour of development on this would a waste of ED resources No disrespect meant and I did my best, but I can't see any flex in that video WelshZeCorgi System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDieing Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 00:30-00:58 once again, stating that they do not move much, but they do flex. Seems like a demo, so no weight on pylons, probrably not fully fuel, saving weight, and weather appears to be rather clear and calm. (also probrably not pulling the same amount of Gs one would expect an A10C would in order to avoid fire.) Somebody who works with A-10's in real life tells you they do not flex. I'm not sure why you think you know better. ''Greed is a bottomless pit which exhausts the person in an endless effort to satisfy the need without ever reaching satisfaction.'' Erich Fromm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackjack171 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 There's definitely vapor in this video. No wing flex but lots of vapes. If we could get the vapor, that would be nice to have. I think this is one of the coolest A-10 vids that I have ever seen! DO it or Don't, but don't cry about it. Real men don't cry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Vapor is cool but it doesn’t happen as often as people on these boards think. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinozherous Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 00:30-00:58 once again, stating that they do not move much, but they do flex. Seems like a demo, so no weight on pylons, probrably not fully fuel, saving weight, and weather appears to be rather clear and calm. (also probrably not pulling the same amount of Gs one would expect an A10C would in order to avoid fire.) In this video is no wingflex... The wings look bent because of the fisheye lens of the camera. i7-14700KF 5.6GHz Water Cooled /// ZOTAC RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB /// 32GB RAM DDR5 /// Win11 /// SSDs only DCS - XP12 - MSFS2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texac Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 In this video is no wingflex... The wings look bent because of the fisheye lens of the camera. There is very minor wing flex. It's just not really as noticeable as on the F-16 or F/A-18. Nothing speaks against some visual improvements. But most people aren't going super fast in the A-10 to see the wings bend noticeably so that it would be worth the implementation. - My Skins/Liveries - Improved F-16C Texture Template • Texac on YouTube • Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkaroth Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 9:32-9:38 a little bit on the wing on the left ?. i9-11900K, alle Kerne 5100 MHz – Asus ROG Maximus XIII Extreme – 64 GB DDR4 3733 MHz Cl17 – NVIDIA Rtx Asus Strix Oc 2080 super (4090 später ) – Hotas Warthog mit Drossel – Vpc Mongoos T50CM2 & Vpc 200 mm Verlängerung – Vpc ACE Sammlung Pedale -Trackir5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshZeCorgi Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 There is very minor wing flex. It's just not really as noticeable as on the F-16 or F/A-18. Nothing speaks against some visual improvements. But most people aren't going super fast in the A-10 to see the wings bend noticeably so that it would be worth the implementation. And if that's the case, fine. Wingflex too minimal it's a waste of time to implement. But I'm not sure why so many are trying to gaslight me over something so trivial in this Don't-believe-your-lying-eyes bonanza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 And if that's the case, fine. Wingflex too minimal it's a waste of time to implement. But I'm not sure why so many are trying to gaslight me over something so trivial in this Don't-believe-your-lying-eyes bonanza. The F-86 module got minimal wing flex modeled, so why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackjack171 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Vapor is cool but it doesn’t happen as often as people on these boards think. I'm with you on that! DO it or Don't, but don't cry about it. Real men don't cry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Every wing has some degree of elasticity. If it didn’t, it would snap. Hog wings will obviously move a little but in comparison to a Viper or a Hornet, they may as well be called ridged. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I'm with you on that! Until our weather engine includes dew point/humidity then it's either 0 vapor or vapor all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackjack171 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Until our weather engine includes dew point/humidity then it's either 0 vapor or vapor all the time. YES! I agree. DO it or Don't, but don't cry about it. Real men don't cry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshZeCorgi Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 The F-86 module got minimal wing flex modeled, so why not? Hey, you don't have to convince me, you gotta convice ED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnyCook Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 I think this one clears up the wing flex issue. Live combat pit cam, with payload and doing high G turns. There's a fair bit of flexing going on Win10 64, GeForce GTX1080 Ti, Rift touch, i5- 2.90GHz(o/c), 16gb Corsair Vengance RAM, X-56 KA-50-3, AH-64D, A10c II, AV-8B, MI-8, Spitfire, Viggen, FC3, F-14, F-15c,FA-18, S/Carrier, CA, Nevada, Normandy 44, Channel, Persian gulf, Marianas, Syria, Sth Atlantic, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harzach Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 All of the evidence of wing flex provided here just goes to prove that there really isn't much flex at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnyCook Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 to be fair, the actual flex is not very big, but in the hi g turns and through turbulence, the wings clearly flex Win10 64, GeForce GTX1080 Ti, Rift touch, i5- 2.90GHz(o/c), 16gb Corsair Vengance RAM, X-56 KA-50-3, AH-64D, A10c II, AV-8B, MI-8, Spitfire, Viggen, FC3, F-14, F-15c,FA-18, S/Carrier, CA, Nevada, Normandy 44, Channel, Persian gulf, Marianas, Syria, Sth Atlantic, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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