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Old 06-18-2017, 01:35 PM   #1
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Hi,

The Spitfire has x2 Hispano MKII Cannons, I have noticed though that the ammunition seems to be German!

When I fire the guns I see the ammunition self destruct in the distance, British ammunition didn't do this but the German Minengeschoss was designed to do this.

So does the Spitfire have the German ammunition model, which would be so wrong, or, even more wrong, does it have the MG151 and German ammunition model?

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Old 06-18-2017, 02:28 PM   #2
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No, it has it's own

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   -- Browning .303 Mk. II
    -- [1] = Cartridge, S.A., Ball, .303 inch, Magazine Rifle, Cordite, Mark I
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_Ball_Mk1c", user_name = _("British303_Ball_Mk1c"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0139317657, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 600.456,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (2) = Cartridge, S.A., Ball, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark VI
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_Ball_Mk6", user_name = _("British303_Ball_Mk6"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0139317657, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 600.456,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (3) = Cartridge, S.A., Ball, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark VII
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_Ball_Mk7", user_name = _("British303_Ball_Mk7"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.6,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (4) = Cartridge, S.A., Ball, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark VIII, Forbidden
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_Ball_Mk8", user_name = _("British303_Ball_Mk8"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0113398093, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 777.240,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.6,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (5) = Cartridge, S.A., Tracer, G, 500 yd, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark I
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_G_Mk1", user_name = _("British303_G_Mk1"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = 0.77,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 1,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (6) = Cartridge, S.A., Tracer, G, infantery long range, 1000 yd, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark II
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_G_Mk2", user_name = _("British303_G_Mk2"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = 1.91,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 1,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (7) = Cartridge, S.A., Tracer, G, naval, 800 yd, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark III
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_G_Mk3", user_name = _("British303_G_Mk3"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_red",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = 1.40,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 1,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (8) = Cartridge, S.A., Tracer, G, aircraft, 550 yd, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark IIII
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_G_Mk4", user_name = _("British303_G_Mk4"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = 0.86,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 1,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (9) = Cartridge, S.A., Tracer, G, aircraft night dimmed, 550 yd, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark V
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_G_Mk5", user_name = _("British303_G_Mk5"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_red",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = 0.86,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0.333333333,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (10) = Cartridge, S.A., Tracer, G, aircraft, 550 yd, .303 inch, Nitrocellulose, Mark VIz
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_G_Mk6z", user_name = _("British303_G_Mk6z"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = 0.86,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 1,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (11) = Cartridge, S.A., Armour Piercing, W, .303 inch, Nitrocellulose, Mark Iz
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_W_Mk1z", user_name = _("British303_W_Mk1z"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "AP",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.6,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (12) = Cartridge, S.A., Incendiary, B, .303 inch, Nitrocellulose, Mark IIIIz
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_B_Mk4z", user_name = _("British303_B_Mk4z"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_white",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.00025,
        payload         = 0.00025, -- of Ammonium Nitrate / Thermal
        payloadEffect   = "Thermal",
        payloadMaterial = "AmmoniumNitrate",
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.6,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = 3.6,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 1,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (13) = Cartridge, S.A., Incendiary, B, .303 inch, Nitrocellulose, Mark VIz, "De Wilde"
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_B_Mk6z", user_name = _("British303_B_Mk6z"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "HE",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0005,
        payload         = 0.0005, -- of Ammonium Nitrate / High Explosive
        payloadEffect   = "Thermal",
        payloadMaterial = "AmmoniumNitrate",
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.6,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (14) = Cartridge, S.A., Observer, O, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark I
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_O_Mk1", user_name = _("British303_O_Mk1"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "HE",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0020,
        payload         = 0.0020, -- of Black Powder / High Explosive
        payloadEffect   = "Nil",
        payloadMaterial = "BlackPowder",
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.6,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })
    -- end of Browning .303 Mk. II



    -- Hispano Mk. II
    -- (1) = Cartridge, Hispano_Mk_II_20x80AP
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "Hispano_Mk_II_20x80AP", user_name = _("Hispano_Mk_II_20x80AP"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        mass            = 0.115, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.283, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.056, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 880.0,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.0006,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 6.0,
        caliber         = 20,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.3, 0.93, 0.55, 0.36, 1.8},
        k1              = 3.6e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (2) = Cartridge, Hispano_Mk_II_20x80HET
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "Hispano_Mk_II_20x80HET", user_name = _("Hispano_Mk_II_20x80HET"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_red",
        mass            = 0.092, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.283, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.056, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0190, -- of Amatol / Concussion
        v0              = 840.0,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.0006,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 6.0,
        caliber         = 20,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.3, 0.93, 0.55, 0.36, 1.8},
        k1              = 3.6e-08,
        tracer_off      = 1.7,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 1.7,
        scale_tracer    = 1,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (3) = Cartridge, Hispano_Mk_II_20x80HE
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "Hispano_Mk_II_20x80HE", user_name = _("Hispano_Mk_II_20x80HE"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_red",
        mass            = 0.092, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.283, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.056, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0190, -- of Amatol / Concussion
        v0              = 860.0,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.0006,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 6.0,
        caliber         = 20,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.3, 0.93, 0.55, 0.36, 1.8},
        k1              = 3.6e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })
    -- end of Hispano Mk. II
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Thanks, great information, but why do the cannon shells explode?

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No, it has it's own

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   -- Browning .303 Mk. II
    -- [1] = Cartridge, S.A., Ball, .303 inch, Magazine Rifle, Cordite, Mark I
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_Ball_Mk1c", user_name = _("British303_Ball_Mk1c"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0139317657, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 600.456,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (2) = Cartridge, S.A., Ball, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark VI
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_Ball_Mk6", user_name = _("British303_Ball_Mk6"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0139317657, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 600.456,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (3) = Cartridge, S.A., Ball, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark VII
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_Ball_Mk7", user_name = _("British303_Ball_Mk7"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.6,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (4) = Cartridge, S.A., Ball, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark VIII, Forbidden
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_Ball_Mk8", user_name = _("British303_Ball_Mk8"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0113398093, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 777.240,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.6,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (5) = Cartridge, S.A., Tracer, G, 500 yd, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark I
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_G_Mk1", user_name = _("British303_G_Mk1"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = 0.77,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 1,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (6) = Cartridge, S.A., Tracer, G, infantery long range, 1000 yd, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark II
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_G_Mk2", user_name = _("British303_G_Mk2"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = 1.91,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 1,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (7) = Cartridge, S.A., Tracer, G, naval, 800 yd, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark III
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_G_Mk3", user_name = _("British303_G_Mk3"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_red",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = 1.40,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 1,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (8) = Cartridge, S.A., Tracer, G, aircraft, 550 yd, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark IIII
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_G_Mk4", user_name = _("British303_G_Mk4"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = 0.86,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 1,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (9) = Cartridge, S.A., Tracer, G, aircraft night dimmed, 550 yd, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark V
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_G_Mk5", user_name = _("British303_G_Mk5"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_red",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = 0.86,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0.333333333,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (10) = Cartridge, S.A., Tracer, G, aircraft, 550 yd, .303 inch, Nitrocellulose, Mark VIz
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_G_Mk6z", user_name = _("British303_G_Mk6z"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.0,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = 0.86,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 1,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (11) = Cartridge, S.A., Armour Piercing, W, .303 inch, Nitrocellulose, Mark Iz
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_W_Mk1z", user_name = _("British303_W_Mk1z"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "AP",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.6,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (12) = Cartridge, S.A., Incendiary, B, .303 inch, Nitrocellulose, Mark IIIIz
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_B_Mk4z", user_name = _("British303_B_Mk4z"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_white",
        projectile      = "Ball",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.00025,
        payload         = 0.00025, -- of Ammonium Nitrate / Thermal
        payloadEffect   = "Thermal",
        payloadMaterial = "AmmoniumNitrate",
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.6,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = 3.6,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 1,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (13) = Cartridge, S.A., Incendiary, B, .303 inch, Nitrocellulose, Mark VIz, "De Wilde"
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_B_Mk6z", user_name = _("British303_B_Mk6z"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "HE",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0005,
        payload         = 0.0005, -- of Ammonium Nitrate / High Explosive
        payloadEffect   = "Thermal",
        payloadMaterial = "AmmoniumNitrate",
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.6,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (14) = Cartridge, S.A., Observer, O, .303 inch, Cordite, Mark I
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "British303_O_Mk1", user_name = _("British303_O_Mk1"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        projectile      = "HE",
        mass            = 0.0112750103, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.024 + 0.009, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.006 + 0.009, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0020,
        payload         = 0.0020, -- of Black Powder / High Explosive
        payloadEffect   = "Nil",
        payloadMaterial = "BlackPowder",
        v0              = 743.712,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.00045,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 3.6,
        caliber         = 7.62,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.0, 0.912, 0.7, 0.25, 1.80},
        k1              = 4.8e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })
    -- end of Browning .303 Mk. II



    -- Hispano Mk. II
    -- (1) = Cartridge, Hispano_Mk_II_20x80AP
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "Hispano_Mk_II_20x80AP", user_name = _("Hispano_Mk_II_20x80AP"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_yellow",
        mass            = 0.115, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.283, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.056, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0000,
        v0              = 880.0,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.0006,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 6.0,
        caliber         = 20,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.3, 0.93, 0.55, 0.36, 1.8},
        k1              = 3.6e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (2) = Cartridge, Hispano_Mk_II_20x80HET
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "Hispano_Mk_II_20x80HET", user_name = _("Hispano_Mk_II_20x80HET"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_red",
        mass            = 0.092, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.283, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.056, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0190, -- of Amatol / Concussion
        v0              = 840.0,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.0006,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 6.0,
        caliber         = 20,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.3, 0.93, 0.55, 0.36, 1.8},
        k1              = 3.6e-08,
        tracer_off      = 1.7,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 1.7,
        scale_tracer    = 1,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })

    -- (3) = Cartridge, Hispano_Mk_II_20x80HE
    declare_weapon({category = CAT_SHELLS, name = "Hispano_Mk_II_20x80HE", user_name = _("Hispano_Mk_II_20x80HE"),
        model_name      = "tracer_bullet_red",
        mass            = 0.092, -- Bullet mass
        round_mass      = 0.283, -- Assembled shell + link
        cartridge_mass  = 0.056, -- Empty shell (+ link if links are stored as well)
        explosive       = 0.0190, -- of Amatol / Concussion
        v0              = 860.0,
        Dv0             = 0.0080,
        Da0             = 0.0006,
        Da1             = 0.0,
        life_time       = 6.0,
        caliber         = 20,
        s               = 0.0,
        j               = 0.0,
        l               = 0.0,
        charTime        = 0,
        cx              = {1.3, 0.93, 0.55, 0.36, 1.8},
        k1              = 3.6e-08,
        tracer_off      = -1,
        tracer_on       = tracer_on_time,
        smoke_tail_life_time = 0,
        scale_tracer    = 0,
        cartridge       = 0,
        scale_smoke     = barrel_smoke_level,
        smoke_opacity   = barrel_smoke_opacity,
    })
    -- end of Hispano Mk. II
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Thanks, great information, but why do the cannon shells explode?

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To be honest Witch, I don't think I have noticed my cannon rounds explode except when they hit something. You are saying that if I just fire my cannons into empty air I should see them explode at 400yds or something? In all fairness I can't say that I have seen LW cannon shells do that in DCS either though I do remember it in Cliffs Of Dover. I will have to try it.
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Ive noticed this too. They definitely explode
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Can confirm they explode.
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Anyone know at what range they explode?
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Old 06-19-2017, 01:38 PM   #8
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Anyone know at what range they explode?


Not sure of the exact setting.
I'd guess at more than 1500m?


There is quite a time delay between firing, and seeing the explosions (puffs of black smoke). It could be 1.5 to 2 seconds? (880m/s initial muzzle velocty = 1500 to 1600 meters)
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Old 06-19-2017, 02:00 PM   #9
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Anyone know at what range they explode?
As a guide, I have just fired the spit cannons then paused as soon as I saw the explosions and found them in F2 view.



This shows the spit was 0.5nm away from the camera when its shells exploded. Ok the camera is not right on top of the explosions but also the spit has travelled in the time it took for the shells to explode. In case anyone is wondering whether those are 109 shells, he was 0.4nm behind the spit and not firing.
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Old 06-19-2017, 03:23 PM   #10
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I notice the Spitfires Browning .303's ammunition also explodes at ranges similar to this

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