ebabil Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 What is this all about ? İs it fc4? https://youtu.be/yNWXWOWspYQ FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirusAM Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 What is this all about ? İs it fc4? https://youtu.be/yNWXWOWspYQ Yes it is R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 Valve Index VPForce Rhino FFB, Virpil F-14 (VFX) Grip, Virpil Alpha Grip, Virpil CM3 Throttle + Control Panel 2, Winwing Orion (Skywalker) Pedals, Razer Tartarus V2 SpeedMaster Flight Seat, JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 Maybe it is a light sim game apart from dcs FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogey Jammer Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 It would be easier for us to understand what MAC is about by presenting the differences (limitations) compared to DCS. I'll buy : МиГ-23МЛД & МЛА МиГ-27К МиГ-25 Mirage III F-4E any IJ plane 1950' Korea Dynamic campaign module Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzaiib Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Will the F-5 be the full fidelity module? or no clicky cockpit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Home Fries Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Makes sense. FC was FC because Ubisoft owned the LOMAC name. Good way to go back to the roots. I have a few questions though: While FC3 owners get a discount, is there any upside to this if we already have the full fidelity modules and theaters? Are there any improvements to the original FC3 aircraft that will require MAC? How will the full fidelity vs MAC aircraft like the MiG-21 be handled in multiplayer? Will servers or mission builders have the option to require the full fidelity module in a slot? -Home Fries My DCS Files and Skins My DCS TARGET Profile for Cougar or Warthog and MFDs F-14B LANTIRN Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firmek Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 It would be easier for us to understand what MAC is about by presenting the differences (limitations) compared to DCS. I think we're over complicating it. It seems to be just the FC4 - aka FC3 plus a few new planes - aka DCS arcade mode, packaged in new branding "MAC" for a marketing purpose. F/A-18, F-16, F-14, M-2000C, A-10C, AV-8B, AJS-37 Viggen, F-5E-3, F-86F, MiG-21bis, MiG-15bis, L-39 Albatros, C-101 Aviojet, P-51D, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, Bf 109 4-K, UH-1H, Mi-8, Ka-50, NTTR, Normandy, Persian Gulf... and not enough time to fully enjoy it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 i think modern combat will be great for Virtual reality with limited fidelity controls.... how ever, what does it mean for FC3 users??? :/ find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heli Shed Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Seems to me like DCS world with a few bundled aircraft and terrains - aka 'Modern Air Combat'. Where is the confusion? Come pay us a visit on YouTube - search for HELI SHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firmek Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 As far as I understand it doesn't really mean anything for FC3 users. You keep it and can fly the planes you have. That's all. If you wan't to play some of the new simplified planes you'll have to get the MAC but as there are already many planes in that package that FC3 owners already have, ED will offer MAC to them at a discounted price. Edit: seems the question got deleted in the mean time. F/A-18, F-16, F-14, M-2000C, A-10C, AV-8B, AJS-37 Viggen, F-5E-3, F-86F, MiG-21bis, MiG-15bis, L-39 Albatros, C-101 Aviojet, P-51D, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, Bf 109 4-K, UH-1H, Mi-8, Ka-50, NTTR, Normandy, Persian Gulf... and not enough time to fully enjoy it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessuno0505 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Well I think it's quite obvious: it's an expansion of FC3: most of its modules are FC3 ones, in addition you'll have FC3 level F5-E, F-86, Mig-15, Mig-21 and L-39ZA; plus a limited part of NTTR and Persian Gulf map. Since I already own full DCS level F-5E, L-39 and full NTTR and I'll buy for sure Persian Gulf in the future, it could be a taste of Korea era jets and Mig-21 (that are not at the top of my wishlist). As I already own FC3, it will depend on how much the "greater discount" will be for FC3 owners. Anyway, not a high priority purchase for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromium Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I think we're over complicating it. It seems to be just the FC4 - aka FC3 plus a few new planes + part of additional maps - aka DCS arcade mode, packaged in new branding "MAC" for a marketing purpose. +1 For who do not use full fidelity DCS and new potential customer that aim to something simplier that "n modules + n sceneries + n complexity levels"... it's a very good thing imho. Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitormouraa Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) Not as bad as I thought, I thought FC4 (MAC now) would bring A-10C, Viggen, Harrier and other FF modules to a lower fidelity package. (Yes, L-39, F-5E, and MiG-21 are FF modules but not a biggie IMHO). A dedicated server is a good news. MAC not so much for me. Might be for other players out there seeking light sim aircraft. And ED didn't put any effort on this it seems, which is great for them because they will make a lot of money. Since all aircraft on that list already exist in DCS. Good for them. I hope this means more FF modules too. Edited July 13, 2018 by Vitormouraa SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 13, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 13, 2018 It will be simplified cockpits like FC3 MAC will give new users and casual simmers a great deal for dipping their toes into the DCS world Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyZ Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 MODERN AIR COMBAT TRAILER 2018? DCS renamed? or new platform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazingTrigger Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 This is the new "FC4" except under a different name as MAC. It's on the FB comments. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanRL Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 In the end, I think this will be good for DCS. My only worry is that I will be tempted to pick up this package instead of the Full F-5E due to being a bit low of funds. That said, If I can get my mates flying with me on PvE servers, more power to ED. Also Dedicated Servers. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessuno0505 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) not a high priority purchase for me. Nevertheless, if the "greater discount" will be great enough, to spend a few bucks to have simplified versions of some planes can come in handy for some reasons. Anyway, at the end a good ED choice IMHO. The more complex airframes continue to be full modules, if you are a new player you can taste different era aircraft / combat styles by purchasing a single module with something more than present FC3. I can imagine a F-5 without startup procedures and fuel management, but with a full implemented radar with a simplified switch between attack modes. Edited July 13, 2018 by nessuno0505 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfredson007 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Assumption 1: All of these AC have simple non-clickable cockpits? Assumption 2: if so, we will be able to buy the new ones separately for DCS? I have the FC3 F-15 and Su27 and i've always loved them. I have the Hornet, L39, Mig-21, F86 etc but i really value the idea behind Flaming cliffs. i hope every jet would eventually be released as non-clicky simple systems with same flight dynamics as the premium version. I am looking forward to buy a Mig-15 with very reduced price (like 3 usd i got the F15!) to have fun with it and explore the flight dynamics! Zero interest in cockpit buttons on that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinox Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Seems to me like DCS world with a few bundled aircraft and terrains - aka 'Modern Air Combat'. Where is the confusion? Seems so, but it is not clearly stated. Previously, when "new" products like "F-15C for DCS World" have been announced, it was explained present owners of FC3 do not have to buy it, because it is identical to that in FC3. I'm missing something like that this time... OT: I have not been here for a few years at least, but I see I have 100% warning! LOL, how did I earn that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcrusty Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I've just watched a YT trailer. Now I understand some comments made earlier... in another thread:smilewink: Of course this SHALL NOT take away resources from completing the Hornet in a timely manner... I imagine?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etirion Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 This is taking resources to increase the playerbase of DCS and keep the game healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I really don't get how people are being 'confused' @@ It's a rebrand of Flaming Cliffs with a few extra downgraded aircraft. What does it mean for you? Nothing unless you want the downgraded versions of those aircraft. Why? Because they want to, and because it's cheaper to reuse assets than make new ones. I like this! Good, you're probably the target audience. I don't like this! You're not the target audience then, obviously. Move along. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 13, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 13, 2018 threads merged Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilbur81 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Modern Air Combat: Awesome idea! Good for ED. Good for the community. Love the name as well. i7 8700K @ Stock - Win10 64 - 32 RAM - RTX 3080 12gb OC - 55 inch 4k Display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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