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Old 10-18-2019, 09:10 PM   #1
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So is it possible that we will ever see some of this newer radar code applied back to some of the FC3 modules ?

Is it modular enough to be done ?

In particular some of the newer IFF/NCTR/TWS code we see in Hornet/Viper applied to F-15, and then furthermore a better API for other 3rd party companies to make their radar code more realistic ?
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Old 10-18-2019, 09:19 PM   #2
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Maybe with MAC we'll get some updates.
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Old 10-20-2019, 02:29 AM   #3
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Would be fantastic to see realistic systems implementation in the FC3 planes
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Old 12-17-2019, 08:48 PM   #4
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(...) realistic systems implementation in the FC3 planes
It would mean FC3 planes redone as full fidelity planes, it would take a lot of time.
It would be great since FC3 reserved some of the hottest jest ever.
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Old 12-18-2019, 09:29 AM   #5
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it would be great to have an update of FC3
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Old 12-18-2019, 10:20 AM   #6
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The FC3 limited, all seeing, instant detection, radars ain't limitation in FC3, but it is in whole DCS World, where these aircrafts gets to fly among full cockpit modules.

AFAIK the hornet is only fighter that has real radar beam simulation, where the beam real FOV scans across the space and tries to find a target, and if the target is pointed, then its RCS is used to check does it get detected (so far only 100% certainty and only notching denies detection, meaning we do not have blinking target that some times is visible and sometimes not, depending range, RCS, weather etc) and this might be as well with F-14 Tomcat, but likely not with other modules.

Compared to FC3 such things is more effective, and much easier for them, and that makes it little more unfair to other module owners.
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Old 12-18-2019, 12:14 PM   #7
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The FC3 limited, all seeing, instant detection, radars ...
Coming with experience from F-15C I can assure you there is RCS calculated, LOS, notch filter, doppler filter, ground clutter and different PRF simulated for the radar. It could use some improvements and more effects but it's far from "all seeing, instant detection". The guys in the know even say it's worse compared to RL.
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Old 12-18-2019, 02:48 PM   #8
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Aircraft (year of service)

Radar name
Detection max range (RCS of 4m2 target in the best conditions)
Horizontal maximum search angle
Vertical maximum search angle



M-2000C (1984)

RDI
~ 85km
-60°/+60° <120°
+60°/-60° <120°


MiG-29A (1983)
MiG-29G (1989)

N019E "Rubin"
~ 70km
-60°/+60° <120°
+56°/-36° <92°


MiG-29S (1988 )

N019M "Topaz"
~ 80km
-65°/+65° <130°
+60°/-38° <98°


SU-27 (1985)

N001 "Myech"
~ 110km
-60°/+60° <120°
-55°/+55° <110°


SU-33 (1990)

N001K "Myech"
~ 115km
-60°/+60° <120°
-55°/+55° <110°


F-15C (1980)

AN/APG-63
~ 140km
-60°/+60° <120°
-30°/+30° <60°


MiG-21bis (1972)

RP-22 "Sapphire"
~ 30km
-30°/+30°<60°
-2°/+17° <19°


F-5E (1972)

AN/APQ-159
~ 40km
-45°/+45° <90°
-40°/+45° <85°


J-11A (1998 )

N001VE "Panda Project"
~ 120km
-60°/+60° <120°
-55°/+55° <110°


F/A-18C (1987)

AN/APG-73
~135km
-70°/+70°<140°
-60°/+60°<120°


F-14A (1975)
F-14B (1987)

AN/AWG-9
~ 210km
-65°/+65° <130°
-6°/+6°<12°


MiG-19P (1958 )

RP-5 "Izumrud"
~10km
+30°/-30°<60°
+26/-16°<42°


F-16C (1986)

AN/APG-68
~105km
-60°/+60° <120°
-60°/+60° <120°


JF-17 (2010)

KJL-7
~100km
-60°/+60° <120°
-?°/+?° <?°
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Old 12-19-2019, 08:57 AM   #9
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Vertical maximum search angle
correction:

F-14A/B: -76° to +54°
F-15: -60° to +60°

about Mig-29: -77° to +60° *this is max sensor coverage at least in DCS


And btw, I tested F-15's radar last night and there is definitely no "instant seeing" - you have to wait for the antenna to actually paint the bogey, you can clearly see where it is currently in the pattern and when the blip comes up.
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Old 12-20-2019, 08:07 PM   #10
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correction:

F-14A/B: -76° to +54°
F-15: -60° to +60°

about Mig-29: -77° to +60° *this is max sensor coverage at least in DCS


And btw, I tested F-15's radar last night and there is definitely no "instant seeing" - you have to wait for the antenna to actually paint the bogey, you can clearly see where it is currently in the pattern and when the blip comes up.

LOOK THIS FOR F-14
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=237548

beginner confuses the mechanical elevation of the radar with the vertical electronic angle of research express in "bar"..
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