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Old 11-13-2017, 01:48 PM   #11
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P-51 can hardly be called a fighter..
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Old 11-13-2017, 03:19 PM   #12
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P-51 can hardly be called a fighter..
What? A fighter needs speed and maneuverability, and the P-51 had plenty of both. Arguably, it had slightly less overall maneuverability than the 109, but if that makes the P-51 not a fighter, then neither were the FW 190, P-38, P-47, and a bunch of other high-speed fighters, all of which were intended to be fighters and were successful in that role.

If you refuse to call a fighter a fighter unless it's superb at "knife-fighting" combat, then only a small number of the chief fighters of the war would be considered fighters. Namely, the Spitfire, the 109, and the Japanese fighters such as the Zero and Oscar.

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Hey, it doesn't have radar, nor can you select afterburner so I guess it's for sure out lol.....

The Mustang was designed as a fighter, so it's a fighter. As much as I personally bag on the Pony it really was a great aircraft and did it's job as good as any in WWII. Zero could turn tighter, FW-190 could roll faster, the P-40 could outdive it....well hell, it could outdive a submarine lol.....point is even though Mustang lacked in some aspects she dominated in others.

Every fighter has it's weaknesses and strengths. There is no "perfect" fighter.

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AFAIK the late P-51 marks like the F-51H were used by Air Defense Command. So yes, it was used as interceptor too.

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Dont forget the "Pilot Factor".
The good thing, especially with Plnes in this timeframe, is that the Pilot makes a plane a good Fighter or a bad Fighter (or any other role you can think of).

Lets say the 109 is far superior against the P-51, if the 109 pilot is a rookie and the p-51 pilot is good, then this technical fact doesnt count.

Especially in this WWII timeframe the pilot factor is extremely important and in most discussions not a topic just because of technical chit chat.
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We aren't forgetting the pilot factor. With flight sim-games, far more virtual fighter pilots become virtual aces than real fighter pilots became real aces, because if we screw up and "die" (or get unlucky and "die"), we respawn and keep learning. They didn't have that luxury.

In the virtual sky, then, there are far more experts than IRL. For this reason, any given ace's chances of meeting another ace who has likewise more or less mastered his ship are rather high (unlike IRL, where those chances were rather low). For this reason, the question of how the two fighters compare with pilot skill not being a significant factor is an especially important one in flight sim-games, where things like duels between approximately equal pilots are much more commonplace than they were in the real war.
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Old 11-14-2017, 07:32 PM   #17
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I think you guys are either going somewhat off topic, or overthinking the OP's issue . I guess whoever in ED was putting the Mustang into the mission editor aircraft categories back in 2012 didn't get THAT deep into the history of that plane, which at that point was supposed to be a one-off bonus module, almost made just for laughs.

Not the first and not the last simplification/leftover from those times. One can wonder, though if the "interceptor" thing is going to be altered with advertized Mustang ETO overhaul, whatever it is and whenever it comes.
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