Scofflaw Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I'm going to update the Landing Paper with Lens Roll angle and hook to eye this weekend. The DCS ship is far too forgiving of bad technique. Is the wire-catching logic in DCS based on the boat or the aircraft? When I'm not on speed in the Hornet, I tend to not catch the wire, yet on the Tomcat I'm never on speed but catch the wire almost every time. run come save me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoBlue Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Precisely. For some reason I don't know, as the Hornet's tailhook rebounds from the Carrier deck very easily and misses the wires, the Tomcat's tailhook doesn't.This... Λ Λ Λ The way some of you land, the Tomcat should either shear the CDP or the hook point, or pull the whole stinger off of the keel.So the trap dynamics in the HB F-14 aren't correct? Because like others I can trap with, not on speed AoA, meatball "clara" & the hook never bounces, I always get a trap? i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Possum Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 This... Λ Λ Λ So the trap dynamics in the HB F-14 aren't correct? Because like others I can trap with, not on speed AoA, meatball "clara" & the hook never bounces, I always get a trap? It doesn’t sound like it. Until it is, you need to touchdown w/n two knots of on-speed and with a stabilized ball in the lens. There are a lot of factors that determine whether or not it’ll be a successful trap. I’ve seen a hook-skip bolter over all 4 wires. The best you can do is put all the odds in your favor by putting it in the wires on speed, at the right VSI, on centerline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory205 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The DCS lens roll angle isn’t models AFAIK. Some behavior is DCS carrier modeling. The F14 is still early access. Changes are a comin’. Viewpoints are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The DCS lens roll angle isn’t models AFAIK. Some behavior is DCS carrier modeling. The F14 is still early access. Changes are a comin’. I am looking forward to better grading systems and/or damage modeling, specifically in the F18. It's going to be quite the wake up call for many of us, especially the ones that formed bad habits. 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBot Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Might this point to a larger issue with the trapping dynamics of the Tomcat? Like others I have frequently seen bolters with the Hornet if parameters are not met exactly. With the Tomcat on the other hand I have not yet seen a single bolter unless the wires were completely missed high/long. The hook will catch a wire every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSauvaaage Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I find the F-14 much easier to bring to deck as I actually feel like I can control the thrust. With the 18, I can only properly bring her down with MIL power, no matter the weight, until trap. And still the indexer shows I am too fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Might this point to a larger issue with the trapping dynamics of the Tomcat? Like others I have frequently seen bolters with the Hornet if parameters are not met exactly. With the Tomcat on the other hand I have not yet seen a single bolter unless the wires were completely missed high/long. The hook will catch a wire every single time. That's true, maybe they haven't fully implemented hook skip and all? I don't know since it is early access. 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory205 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 What other landing questions have you flummoxed, other than a general lack of practice and flying skills? ;) I've updated the Landing Tips paper based on some of the questions here, and want to know if I've missed anything. Viewpoints are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_sukebe Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 Had a good chat with a fellow pilot last night. Our mutual view is that the F14 right now is inappropriately forgiving of landing speed, weight and AOA. Right now, I can successfully trap at 180 knots and with a LOT of weight. To us, that doesn’t seem correct and probably needs an overhaul. System: 9700, 64GB DDR4, 2070S, NVME2, Rift S, Jetseat, Thrustmaster F18 grip, VPC T50 stick base and throttle, CH Throttle, MFG crosswinds, custom button box, Logitech G502 and Marble mouse. Server: i5 2500@3.9Ghz, 1080, 24GB DDR3, SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkDCS Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I have a much easier time with the 14 carrier landing due to it not being as easy to get behind the power curve with it. Heck you got the speed brakes out cause it wants to fly so bad. Tons of power if you get a little low and DLC is like cheating if you are high. Rudder and stick planes you can put where you want them without the FBW always dampening what your asking for at least in sims. Rig: 5960X @ 4.5GHZ 32GB 3000Mhz DDR4 Titan XP Dell 3415W 21:9 Thrustmaster Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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