FC3 Bug thread

The automated leading edge flaps on flanker are shown in pit instruments as regular flaps

Correct as per manual.

and every time they extract/retract in flight the flaps audio sound is there...

Seems to be OK in latest build. Just have a wee looksee post next update and report again if necessary. As said, seems to be resolved now with latest build.

Once again regarding that Su 27 landing gear issue. I just triple checked it. Landing gear isnt working only in Instant Action mission Su 27 intercept.

Cannot replicate with latest build - landing gear deploys fine on SU-27.

Can you tell me which mission you are referring to, Kuky?

I wasn't referring to any particular mission, just saying that even though you might have mini HUD option disabled in your game settings, if someone makes a mission and turns mini HUD on and forces it (you can do this for any option in game) when you fly this mission you will see mini HUD enabled. If you want to check, rename mission.miz file to mission.zip or mission.miz.zip (so it shows as archive) then you can open it, and check options file to see what options are set for that mission.

Disappearing player names from the menu. This is consistent every single time I connect to a server.

 

http://youtu.be/1rLRwcyvq28

This is issue because of GUI not fixed yet fully for multimonitor setups (I see you have 2 monitors)... I have/had same issue and found a workaround... see this thread:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=96698

List Updated:

1 - F15 Gear up = black textures

2 - Mig29S external fuel tanks not displayed on fuel tape # Feature and working as intended - *Under Revision* *Resolved*

3 - F15 ADI switched

4 - F15 Virtual head movement excessive

5 - Russian planes Cannot lock contact in TWS

6 - AK arrestor cables not animated # Fixed in latest revisions.

7 - SU33 loadout indicators reversed in cockpit

8 - Refuelling F15/SU33 buggy

9 - F15 VSD text overlap when STT/Guns

10 - F15 external lights absent in flight

11 - Damage modelling to wheels/landing gear absent

12 - F15 HUD unreadable

13 - Russian planes Nav circle misalignment in ENR/RTN modes

15 - R27ER no loft trajectory *No Bug - As Intended*

16 - Mig31 nosewheel not grounded

17 - Canopy jettison animation wrong

18 - EOS scanning not functional in elevation

19 - SU-27 cockpit textures include English labels. Not consistent translation. Examples: MSL and GUN on the weapons panel

20 - SU27 entire RWR is in English

21 - SU-27 native HUD "ИЗЛ" symbol overlaps over distance scale in BVR mode with Radar on

22 - F15 HUD indications overlapping

23 - Su-25, Su-25T and Mig-29 Caution, Warning and Trim lights are in english instead of russian letters

24 - HUD contacts in front appears also in Rear Aspect Mode.

25 - Frontal aspect HUD contacts appears in Rear radar mode and can be locked

26 - SU33 Green HUD block at night effect

27 - A10 ADI switched

28 - F15 black cockpit pixelation when facing northerly direction (afternoon)

29 - MIG29 Command Airspeed in LDG mode way below minimum

30 - SU27 Command Airspeed in LDG mode slightly below minimum

31 - Graphical glitch (hash marks) in lower centre of SU27 HUD when zoomed out

32 - Graphical glitch (hash marks) in lower centre of SU33 HUD when zoomed out

33 - F15 no drag increase with external fuel tanks

34 - Flyables smoke pod colours are incorrectly designated

35 - Scripting for cobra not present

36 - AIM-120C/R-77 tracks target beyond gimbal limits ONLY IF platform's radar reacquires target *No Bug - As Intended*

37 - Ballistic AIM-120C/R-77 locks target beyond FOV/Gimbal limits ONLY IF platform's radar reacquires target *No Bug - As Intended*

38 - SU27 automated leading edge flaps on flanker are shown in pit instruments as regular flaps

39 - SU27 when leading edge flaps are operational audio is heard for normal flaps

40 - FC2/FC3 mission incompatibility *Resolved*

41 - F-15C CTD initiated by changing the weapons (CTD when the player lock in the NAV mode a target with the radar and change the weapons)

42 - SU33 floating on pitching AK deck

43 - SU27/33 weapon panel characters misalignment if the cockpit illumination is on

44 - G940 HOTAS FFB issues/not functioning correctly

45 - F15 unable to adjust altimeter pressure setting at all. *No Fix required - Not a design feature*

46 - F-15C antenna does not track PTD in elevation with TWS

47 - Air to Air missiles do not have INS *No Fix required - Not a design feature*

48 - ECM uses FC2 behaviour in DCS world

49 - Missiles expend too much speed when turning

50 - Short range missiles do not turn hard enough

51 - Virtual Pilot G-Tolerance is too low

52 - Helicopters are exhibiting stealth characteristics

53 - SU25A Airbrake Pylons keep defaulting to the Russian SU-25 1st skin and the bort numbers become an outline in external view when zoomed out. 54 - SU33/27, Mig29 RWR does not indicate A.I. missile launch

55 - Russian HUD guidance symbology in LNDG mode incorrect - missing glide slope error circle at certain runways

56 - Russian plane pilots have corrupted Pilot head textures at night

57 - Russian planes have corrupted landing light animations - MiG-29A,G/S and Su-27/33 have incorrect landing light animations

58 - Missile HOJ mode not functional

59 - Mig29 incorrect flaps deployed for player-controlled aircraft

60 - Multiplayer datalink not functional for Russian aircraft

61 - F15 no afterburner LED on right panel to indicate burner lit

62 - F15 flaps do not induce any drag

63 - F15 strange attitude/behaviour with crosswind landings

64 - AIM9 drops away before accelerating at launch

65 - Chimney smoke visible through undercast

66 - Mig29 flaps not extending to full 25 degrees

67 - Mig 29 flap extension animation incorrect

68 - Mig29 flaps blown in by wind at very low airspeeds

69 - Mig29 Chaff and Flare loaded amount incorrect when rearming in game, via the radio (Alt + ' ) menu

70 - Russian planes slip indicators and HSI offset from centre

71 - Multiplayer audio from other players not present (drogue chute)

72 - Multiplayer exhaust nozzle expansion not visible to other clients

73 - SU27 gets AoA warning of F15

74 - Water not visible in mirrors of FC3 aircraft

75 - Wingtip vapour effect missing from flyables

76 - SU25A antenna on nose cannot be seen from cockpit

77 - Contrails misaligned/too close to engines of aircraft

78 - Missile smoke discoloured/blue effect

79 - F15 does not repair

80 - Multiplayer clients do not see SU25A/T airbrake deployment

81 - F15 turbine fans not spinning

82 - F15 Gun pipper tracking issue (Impact point below target)

83 - SU27 Engines fully functional even when on fire

84 - SU33 Command IAS too low in LDG mode

85 - SU33 In-cockpit Weapons station indicator has 11 stations lit instead of 10

86 - SU33/27 and Mig29 Missile fire Zone computations bugged

87 - F15 Air intakes appears to be without any animation.

88 - Multiplayer Mig-29 repair on ground/at airbase not functioning correctly

89 - SU25A Wrong Chaff and flare count. 128 places instead of 256, model and skin shows 8*32 dispensers.

90 - SU 25A/T MDB-67-U 4*FAB-100 modell is incorrect, FAB-100 bombs too close to each other

91 - SU25A/T Gunpods operation cannot be asigned to axis

92 - Multiplayer disappearing player names from the menu in multi-monitor setups

93 - Missiles not aligned with weapons-pylon when SU-33 wings are folded

Some mor info on Bug Item:

"86 - SU33/27 and Mig29 Missile fire Zone computations bugged"

Some more info. In STT the DLZ values as reported are all the same for all missile types i.e. the reported bug.

However in TWS and you run the TDC over the target the DLZ indications vary for each selected missile type (and on inspection are appropriate) for each selected missile type.

Chiz what are the current in game Scan limits the IRST is now using azimuth and elevation ?

The following issues were noted by a fellow forum member (apologies cannot recall name):

 

 

 

Could somebody please explain to me what exactly is out of the ordinary . . .

Ta

Nothing.

Nothing.

Ta for the confirmation :)

Correct as per manual.

 

 

 

Seems to be OK in latest build. Just have a wee looksee post next update and report again if necessary. As said, seems to be resolved now with latest build.

Hey Viper, I got the latest update this evening 1.2.2 7286 and it's no change about this. I think this is still wrong, I've labeled in attached image what should be automated leading edge slats and flaps... when you lower the flaps (for take off/landing) the lower lights light up (as it should). As you get some AoA and automated leading edge slats extract the top green lights should be on, but in sim still the lower lights are on.

I am using zzzspace sound pack and I can hear this sound very clearly (with original game sounds I can hear it also but it's little lower volume so not that distinct)... I like zzzspace sound pack better so I've just edited .../Sounds/sdef/Aircrafts/FlapsEndIn.sdef file and set gain = 0 so I don't hear it :noexpression:

PS:

92 - Multiplayer disappearing player names from the menu in multi-monitor setups

is actually issue with scroll bar not being adjusted in multimonitor setups (with 2 or more screens set next to each other left/right the scroll bar becomes too wide). To add to that folder icons are also with same issue... see this thread for more info: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=96698

and automated leading edge slats extract the top green lights should be on, but in sim still the lower lights are on.

Ah, what the manual refers to as Intake protection grids?

 

PS:

92 - Multiplayer disappearing player names from the menu in multi-monitor setups

 

is actually issue with scroll bar not being adjusted in multimonitor setups (with 2 or more screens set next to each other left/right the scroll bar becomes too wide). To add to that folder icons are also with same issue... see this thread for more info: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=96698

Ta - discussion linked to bug report.

Ah, what the manual refers to as Intake protection grids?

EDIT:

I did little more checking and I am sure now Su-27 is not working properly about this

In MiG-29 which has the same indicator, the top light is on when leading edge slats are extracted. The automated engine protection grill on the intake is not shown in pit, I don't see why Su-27 would be any different as both have these automated leading edge slats for high AoA.

In Su-27 though the top light again does turn on on start up when leading edge slats are extracted, only once airborne and gears are retracted the leading edge slats retract also and the top lights are off.

But in flight in Su-27, as soon as you pull some G and create some AoA both leading edge slats and flaps extract... I don't know if flaps should be doing this but it doesn't seem right... and in this instance only the bottom light doesn't actually turn on and stay on, it just blinks and happens that when almost in level flight and just pull/push on the stick a little (to create tiny nose wobble) the top light turns on and off many times and I can hear this sound many times... this can't be right.

PS: I know the flanker is very old model but it is missing the engine protection cover during take off and landing.. which MiG-29 has in game and working well.

"But in flight in Su-27, as soon as you pull some G and create some AoA both leading edge slats and flaps extract... I don't know if flaps should be doing this but it doesn't seem right... and in this instance only the bottom light doesn't actually turn on and stay on, it just blinks and happens that when almost in level flight and just pull/push on the stick a little (to create tiny nose wobble) the top light turns on and off many times and I can hear this sound many times... this can't be right."

Leading edge flaps in flight in both the SU27 and Mig29 are automatically scheduled as a function of AOA and Mach number and gear position. In effect when you have the gear retracted and flaps in the UP position you get full time Leading edge combat flap type arrangement. So it is normal for the leading edge flaps to be varying their position continuously as AOA and or Mach number changes. This is pretty much standard for nearly all modern fighters Western and Russian/Chinese etc. Many also schedule limited amounts of trailing edge flap as well. The Hornet leading edge flaps can move at around 30deg sec depending on AOA onset rate.

F15 AB no light indicator,

Leading edge flaps in flight in both the SU27 and Mig29 are automatically scheduled as a function of AOA and Mach number and gear position. In effect when you have the gear retracted and flaps in the UP position you get full time Leading edge combat flap type arrangement. So it is normal for the leading edge flaps to be varying their position continuously as AOA and or Mach number changes. This is pretty much standard for nearly all modern fighters Western and Russian/Chinese etc. Many also schedule limited amounts of trailing edge flap as well. The Hornet leading edge flaps can move at around 30deg sec depending on AOA onset rate.

yeah I get that, but I didn't word it properly... what I wanted to say is I don't think it's right that regular flaps are lowered also, which they do now in sim... and again the light that represents regular flaps is on but light that represents leading edge slats are not.

The way I think should work (and you seem to confirm it) is that regular flaps should not be automatically lowered as function of AoA and this should be working for leading edge slats only, and the light that should turn on is top light, not bottom.

Some mor info on Bug Item:

 

"86 - SU33/27 and Mig29 Missile fire Zone computations bugged"

 

Some more info. In STT the DLZ values as reported are all the same for all missile types i.e. the reported bug.

 

However in TWS and you run the TDC over the target the DLZ indications vary for each selected missile type (and on inspection are appropriate) for each selected missile type.

Good find. Just launched several R-27Rs and R-27s at Rmax for each missile myself using those DLZs and they seem about right.

Rich

:smilewink:

Oops thanks

rainfall in the garage

runway lighting

Again, FC3 flyable aircraft bugs only in this thread.

Ta

Kuky, about SLATS and FLAPERONS lights in the left front cockpit panel you are right.

In flight on the real Su-27 the Slats get extracted and retracted in auto mode to help flight maneouvers, and the light showing this movement must be on and off following it. Also they have extrated and retracted position mode.

But ALSO the flaperons has an auto mode, ( Retracted position, extracted position and AUTO mode ), in auto mode Flaperons follow the Slats in helping the pilot flight inputs in AoA, G´s, rolls etc. I don´t know if also the green lights lits up when the flaperons are moving in auto mode but for Slats i´m 100% sure that it must be on when are extrated.

In take off and landings de flaperons are extracted at 18º down, but in flight could move up 27º max. 18º down for roll axis from pilot inputs and also in auto mode following AFCS control together with the Slats.

So, FC3 Su-27 green lights for SLATS extraction are missing, and Flaperons moving in auto mode helping the flight inputs together with slats is like real Su-27 works.

The question is, also the green lights for flaps lits up in auto mode or only in Landing and Take off mode.

Also you are right, in Mig-29 it seems to work as intended.

List Updated:

 

82 - F15 Gun pipper tracking issue (Impact point below target)

This bug is also present on su-33/27... I'll check with mig-29

AAP

This bug is also present on su-33/27... I'll check with mig-29

Not any more:

writes messages to the self multiplayer.

Multiplayer mode faulty smoke

:(

Posted by aap_flanker

This bug [82 - F15 Gun pipper tracking issue (Impact point below target)] is also present on su-33/27... I'll check with mig-29

Not any more:

Beat me to it. Just took the SU-27 up to prove how incredibly rusty I was. And the proof is in the track. Wish I could blame it on the pipper but it seems to be working fine.

Rich