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Old 04-17-2020, 10:25 AM   #1
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  • Ju 88A-4 - torpedo bomber aircraft
  • A-20 - medium bomber aircraft
These two additions, are simply stunning in detail and workmanship. I haven't looked at the other models yet. I did look at the Elefant which is also amazing in detail and workmanship.


In the very old precursor to DCS, I loved flying the Ju 88 on torpedo runs, it was one of my favorite aircraft. She is lovingly re-created here.

A big thank you to all the artists and developers involved with bringing the Ju 88 to us with such stunning detail. As well as all the other assets.

See latest post entries, a bug exists for damaged JU's that are parked. They will lose a wing, still stand on one leg, will even taxi and run if sustaining catastrophic damage after landing and on the ground.
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Old 04-17-2020, 10:59 AM   #2
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Unfortunately, as in the B-17, deck shooters are snipers themselves, and shooting down this machine is almost impossible. Of course, it can be said that it is still a beta version, but the B-17 is in a stable and beta version, and its problems are the same in both versions for many months. So we are waiting for DM, without it they are just static models for viewing standing at the airport.
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Old 04-17-2020, 11:08 AM   #3
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Unfortunately, as in the B-17, deck shooters are snipers themselves, and shooting down this machine is almost impossible. Of course, it can be said that it is still a beta version, but the B-17 is in a stable and beta version, and its problems are the same in both versions for many months. So we are waiting for DM, without it they are just static models for viewing standing at the airport.
Couldn't agree more, the current gunners are way, way too accurate and deadly:

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Old 04-17-2020, 02:16 PM   #4
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Which is a shame because they added a dispersion from the two existing WW2 ships that allows a lot more tracer and gunfire without the pinpoint accuracy. I do like a dispersion effect or at least something human about shooting to protract the gunfighting.


Obviously it's WIP and such, but it is top of my own list for AI human gunnery, nect to damage modelling.



Amazing looking objects though.
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just tried replacing some B17s for the A20s in a mission using WW2 big formation and the A20s are reacting to threats like a fighter and go after the Luftwaffe fighters. So seems like escort missions are off the table with these AI unless anybody has a workaround for it?
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Unfortunately, as in the B-17, deck shooters are snipers themselves, and shooting down this machine is almost impossible. Of course, it can be said that it is still a beta version, but the B-17 is in a stable and beta version, and its problems are the same in both versions for many months. So we are waiting for DM, without it they are just static models for viewing standing at the airport.
Not disagreeing entirely, but I will create missions using the Anton specifically to shoot down B-17s, and recently the JU - yeah you have to jink, and jive to avoid a stream of inbound fire, but I have left plenty of B-17's and JU's smoking on the ground.

Of course, the mission is simple, with only 3 B-17's or JU's, and me flying at them from the six. They can be shot down, but yes, if you dally for a perfect six line up, or stay in their cone of fire too long, you die pretty quick!
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Old 04-17-2020, 05:21 PM   #7
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Unfortunately, as in the B-17, deck shooters are snipers themselves, and shooting down this machine is almost impossible. Of course, it can be said that it is still a beta version, but the B-17 is in a stable and beta version, and its problems are the same in both versions for many months. So we are waiting for DM, without it they are just static models for viewing standing at the airport.

I dont agree with this at all.
Sitting on the 6 of a bomber is going to get you killed. Don't do it. just ask Peter Townsend
Conduct slashing and head on attacks, the exact tacti8cs that were successful during the war.
B17s, Ju88s and A20s can all be shot down this way.

I think people overrate their own shooting, and think that bombers are easy prey. They are not. a single fighter sitting on the 6 of a bomber is just asking for trouble.
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just tried replacing some B17s for the A20s in a mission using WW2 big formation and the A20s are reacting to threats like a fighter and go after the Luftwaffe fighters. So seems like escort missions are off the table with these AI unless anybody has a workaround for it?

Set their instructions properly in the ME, and they won.
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Set their instructions properly in the ME, and they won.
Ju88 responds in the correct manner A20 does not same mission parameters set. Works on B17 formation as well.
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Ju88 responds in the correct manner A20 does not same mission parameters set. Works on B17 formation as well.
Have you set option "Reaction to threat" poperly?
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