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Old 07-10-2019, 03:37 PM   #381
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Threats? What are you talking about? That was in no way a threat
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Old 07-11-2019, 04:39 PM   #382
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I am currently holding off on the purchase of F-16 because I want to get my hands on the JF-17 instead, however if it is not coming this year and F-16 offers something unique in payload to what FA-18 can carry then I will have to put JF-17 on back burner for a while.

Without updates, I will not hold blind faith and wait for too long.
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Old 07-11-2019, 05:12 PM   #383
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I am currently holding off on the purchase of F-16 because I want to get my hands on the JF-17 instead, however if it is not coming this year and F-16 offers something unique in payload to what FA-18 can carry then I will have to put JF-17 on back burner for a while.

Without updates, I will not hold blind faith and wait for too long.
I'd say the JF-17 has a good chance of making it this year, now I don't have inside information but what I can say it they were targeting summer for EA this January. So I don't know how far behind they are schedule wise, but I'd say it has a good shot of releasing this year. Maybe before the F-16, but that is looking slim. But I think the JF-17 will be more feature complete on release than the F-16 so that weighs in too.

I personally hope they can get it out before the F-16 for business reasons, but I imagine it will be a favorite of many even if they don't get it out before the F-16 if it is made to high standards.
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Old 07-11-2019, 07:10 PM   #384
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The F-16C is scheduled for Autumn, in my opinion, not early fall so they still have time for release the JF-17. I hope we'll have it before the end of July, mid-August
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Old 07-12-2019, 01:24 AM   #385
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The F-16C is scheduled for Autumn, in my opinion, not early fall so they still have time for release the JF-17. I hope we'll have it before the end of July, mid-August
As much as I'd love for it to be soon, my money is on September/October as reasonable expectations it will either be released or we will have data on release date not to far from then.
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Old 07-14-2019, 01:37 PM   #386
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Anyone I speak with talks down on this aircraft compared with F-16. Are there any benefits to this module when compared with EDs F-16?
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Old 07-14-2019, 05:19 PM   #387
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Anyone I speak with talks down on this aircraft compared with F-16. Are there any benefits to this module when compared with EDs F-16?
Unless ED decides to add the AGM-158 to the planned F-16 stores the JF-17 will have the edge over the Viper when it comes to standoff weapons with it's CM-802AKG.

The JF-17 cockpit is also a much more modern one with 3 large MFDs and a lot less clutter compared to that of the F-16.
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Old 07-14-2019, 07:09 PM   #388
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As much as I'd love for it to be soon, my money is on September/October as reasonable expectations it will either be released or we will have data on release date not to far from then.
I'll be amazed if its actually this year.
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Old 07-14-2019, 07:54 PM   #389
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I'll be amazed if its actually this year.
I've been under the impression they've got a lot done, at the end of the day its only a guess from me. Whenever it releases, I just want it released in a good state. Obviously we all want it soon, just not rushed.
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Old 07-14-2019, 07:59 PM   #390
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Anyone I speak with talks down on this aircraft compared with F-16. Are there any benefits to this module when compared with EDs F-16?
As it stands currently, the PL-12 is looking to be the better A2A missile than what is currently the DCS aim-120. Now a lot can change, but the PL-12 appears to be hitting what people think the aim-120 "should" do while the DCS aim-120 is massively under performing (40-60%) in a straight line compared to what those people think. PL-12 was like 5% better than what people think the aim-120 "should" do. Real world, they are considered quite comparable, so it would likely come down to tactics if they were to change the modeling of either missile. I imagine the aim-120 will be improved in the future as it undergoes certain changes with the F-18.

This is what I've referenced to what people think the aim-120 "should" do
http://www.zaretto.com/sites/zaretto...sment-rev2.pdf
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