KOREA! 1952 (MiG vs Sabre PvP Server)

For the record, at some point down the line, I would like very much to remove the F10 icon.

 

I expect to try turning it off on a trial basis, sometime in the near future. In the meantime, I recommend everyone get in the habit of tuning your NDBs before take-off, and practice dead-reckoning when you can.

While I completely understand the desire for authenticity, I prefer it myself, I have been flying recon missions on the blue side in the F-51. I'm a total noob, and presently depend on the F10 marker in the mountains where most of my flights occur. As a former (preGPS) USMC Rifle Platoon Sgt. and Weapons Section Leader (machine guns, 60mm mortars, and antitank assault) I'm quite good with map and compas and terrain appreciation, but without significant time to study a map of those mountains, with assigned checkpoints, I feel that even I would have a major problem flying recon without F10. I don't think I'd have much of an issue with checkpoints though. In real life, no one on the ground or in the air conducts a recon patrol without preplanned checkpoints. How about making F10 optional or creating formal recon missions?

How about making F10 optional or creating formal recon missions?

That's actually a good idea, not sure why I didn't think of that before. It's easy enough to do.

I definitely wouldn't turn off F10 icon unless I put together some very comprehensive navigation resources, maps, and instructions for the server.

But optional may be the best way to go, I think.

:thumbup:

SeaQuark, can you give me tackview track from your server?

If you set the F10 map to Map Only, can it still be marked up by other players? That should be the way to go. Let players quickly share recon intel, but it's only as good as their ability to determine their location.

Hi Great Server! I tried it today on the Mig and it was great, I definitely need some practice!

Is the AA active on the red airfield? I dragged an 86 all the way but didn't see any AA supporting me, but saw it near the blue airfield (or I think I saw it)

Thanks again!

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Any chance of some TF-51 missions in this server? Recon or delivery missions? (I guess there isn't an appropriate equivalent for the NK side to fly. We need a Yak 9!)

While DCS doesn't have any flyable Soviet props, I noticed that the LA-9 and LA-11 look a lot like the Fw-190. Perhaps a -190 could be reskinned and used in place of an LA-9 or LA-11 for the Soviet (er NK) recon. The LA-9 and LA-11 are of the correct time frame (1946 and 1947 respectively), and were used during the conflict.

Thanks again to all who participated in last night's event! Red team won the day. Tiger flight was annihilated, and Victor flight was bounced and had to abandon its mission.

The loss of Tiger flight was primarily due to my own negligence as flight lead. In future events, I will definitely be placing more of an emphasis on flight tactics + cohesion.

TIGER LEAD FLIGHT REPORT, SEAQUARK:

Congratulations to RFJack, whose flight scored 3 kills with 0 losses.

6-3-1 FLIGHT REPORT, RFJACK:

To address other questions:

SeaQuark, can you give me tackview track from your server?

There is no TacView enabled on the server, I don't think I even have it installed.

Is the AA active on the red airfield?

It definitely should be. There are lots of Red AA units around the field. Sometimes I have noticed a bug where a damaged player will be ignored as "dead" by AA units, but generally they should work. If you encounter this problem again, let me know. Last time I checked it was working.

Perhaps a -190 could be reskinned and used in place of an LA-9 or LA-11 for the Soviet (er NK) recon.

I'm OK with placeholders for AI units, but I guess as far as playable aircraft go, I'd like to keep it as close as possible to period-correct. I actually used to have Fw-190s on the old version of the server as LA stand-ins, but nobody really used them.

If any Russian prop is added to DCS, I will almost certainly put it up on the server.

Thanks! I look forward to the next event.

Fascinating Korean conflict with Migs & Sabres. I'd like to join in but hesitant to simply jump in and embarrass myself - if not different from many others feeling same way. It there are those with experience who could orient or provide a little training and prep for missions that I could fly wing with, would be helpful.

I understand there aren't any online squadron's flying cooperative type missions? I'm comfortable flying the Sabre guns and rockets, but not so much navigation no bombing experience. I'm a long-time online veteran of Falcon BMS & DCS A-10C.

Thank you

Fascinating Korean conflict with Migs & Sabres. I'd like to join in but hesitant to simply jump in and embarrass myself - if not different from many others feeling same way. It there are those with experience who could orient or provide a little training and prep for missions that I could fly wing with, would be helpful.

 

I understand there aren't any online squadron's flying cooperative type missions? I'm comfortable flying the Sabre guns and rockets, but not so much navigation no bombing experience. I'm a long-time online veteran of Falcon BMS & DCS A-10C.

 

Thank you

You're in luck, Invisibull and I are putting together a virtual squadron for Sabres. Will be announced when ready.

In the meantime, hit up the Discord. Lots of people like doing co-op flights on the server, of varying experience levels. I personally never fly without a wingman, and I would much rather give a newbie instruction than fly alone.

As long as you know the basics of your plane (start up, take-off, landing, radios, arming weapons) I am happy to fly with you anytime.

 

It definitely should be. There are lots of Red AA units around the field. Sometimes I have noticed a bug where a damaged player will be ignored as "dead" by AA units, but generally they should work. If you encounter this problem again, let me know. Last time I checked it was working.

 

That's must be it, I was trying to get back to land with electrical and hydraulic failures while under fire from an F86, at least he didn't shoot me down, I lost control evading (due hydraulics) and crashed

FlyCast, I consider myself a very poor player, I fly with the Rift so have a hard time spotting, but the server is very well set and it's fun. (Well, Until I saw the video of the 3 Migs flying in formation, I don't understand Russian but they look real good and made me reconsider )

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Why is Tacview forbidden? Could be useful.

Why is Tacview forbidden? Could be useful.

My personal philosophy is, these guys didn't have TacView:

So neither do we. Holding an effective flight debriefing after landing is an important part of the mission. Self-assess your performance, compare to how the engagement looked to your wingman, and come up with a plan to do better next time.

It would be very useful to have a web page which shows you how many players are online. if i see players, i log in :D

It would be very useful to have a web page which shows you how many players are online. if i see players, i log in :D

I'd like to if somebody could link me good instructions on how to do it. I'm not super-technical, but I can follow instructions.

In the meantime, I use SimpleRadio for an approximation of this. SRS will tell you how many people are connected to the server via SRS. For example, right now I just checked and there are 3 people connected, which it tells me at the bottom of the Client window:

And since not everyone is on SimpleRadio, usually this is a low-end estimation of the people online.

On that note: if you are using the server and not on SRS, you are missing out. Simply by checking in on CH. 3 at the airfield yesterday, I found myself part of a spontaneous 5-ship bomber escort mission.

On Another Note, re: F10 "Own Aircraft" Label

Unfortunately I can't seem to find an option to make "Own Aircraft" optional on the F10. I wish it were that simple, but apparently it's either "force a particular view option" or "let everybody choose their own view settings"-- which would enable people to see enemy units on the F10, etc. Obviously that is not a good solution.

Failing some other solution, I will stick to my original plan of having a "dead reckoning" week, i.e. turning off F10 label on a trial basis at some point in the future.

you are missing out. Simply by checking in on CH. 3 at the airfield yesterday, I found myself part of a spontaneous 5-ship bomber escort mission.

For the uninitiated, what is channel 3? 3.775/151??

I've installed SRS, and for the life of me, can't get this sucker to work on the Quark server (SRS). I've set my in A/C radio to 154, 156, etc, and no one can hear me.

I'll post onto the SRS thread for some mentoring... ;)

For the uninitiated, what is channel 3? 3.775/151??

Channel 3 is the Check-In frequency for Blue team.

For the Migs, Check-In is on 3.775 KHz (wave # 151)

When you first spawn in, tune to this frequency to talk with your flight, plan your mission, etc. If there's any other flights at the airfield, they might be doing the same thing, which will be a good opportunity to "check in" and coordinate your flights.

It's important to have a reserved channel for this, as the ATC frequency (CH .1 for Sabres, 150 for MiGs) should really only be used for traffic comms and communicating with the tower. Please keep the ATC channel free of idle chit-chat.

This is all assuming you have SimpleRadio installed right and you are using your cockpit radios correctly, so you can hear your teammates.

I've installed SRS, and for the life of me, can't get this sucker to work on the Quark server (SRS). I've set my in A/C radio to 154, 156, etc, and no one can hear me.

 

I'll post onto the SRS thread for some mentoring... ;)

Common problems are:

• Speaker / Microphone not set up correctly in SRS
  
• Push-to-talk button not set up correctly in SRS
  
• Bad interactions between SRS and other mods, or remnants of mods. Uninstall all mods.
  
• If it's still not working after that, check your Export.lua file in your Saved Games----> DCS---> Scripts folder. If there's a bunch of junk in it aside from the one line that SRS puts there, try deleting it, repairing DCS, and re-installing SRS.
  

But before you get into all that, make sure you're not making one of these "whoops, duh!" mistakes:

• People try to use their SRS overlay instead of actually flipping switches in the cockpit
  
• People don't apply power to their plane, or generally don't know how to use their plane's radios
  
• No one to talk to-- hopping on the server without knowing who's on what channel and expecting to find someone instantly. It's best to test it out with a buddy first, makes things much easier.
  

If you still have problems, hit up the SRS Discord channel:

https://discord.gg/5ak4jJr

 

For the Migs, Check-In is on 3.775 KHz (wave # 151)

 

 

When you first spawn in, tune to this frequency to talk with your flight, plan your mission, etc. If there's any other flights at the airfield, they might be doing the same thing, which will be a good opportunity to "check in" and coordinate your flights.

 

It's important to have a reserved channel for this, as the ATC frequency (CH .1 for Sabres, 150 for MiGs) should really only be used for traffic comms and communicating with the tower. Please keep the ATC channel free of idle chit-chat.

 

This is all assuming you have SimpleRadio installed right and you are using your cockpit radios correctly, so you can hear your teammates.

 

 

 

Common problems are:

 

• Speaker / Microphone not set up correctly in SRS
  
• Push-to-talk button not set up correctly in SRS
  
• Bad interactions between SRS and other mods, or remnants of mods. Uninstall all mods.
  
• If it's still not working after that, check your Export.lua file in your Saved Games----> DCS---> Scripts folder. If there's a bunch of junk in it aside from the one line that SRS puts there, try deleting it, repairing DCS, and re-installing SRS.
  

 

But before you get into all that, make sure you're not making one of these "whoos, duh!" mistakes:

 

• People try to use their SRS overlay instead of actually flipping switches in the cockpit
  
• People don't apply power to their plane, or generally don't know how to use their plane's radios
  
• No one to talk to-- hopping on the server without knowing who's on what channel and expecting to find someone instantly. It's best to test it out with a buddy first, makes things much easier.
  

 

If you still have problems, hit up the SRS Discord channel

thanks buddy, I'll check it tomorrow morning... (taking the Thanksgiving week off...) :thumbup:

Was up on the server today. came across 8x enemy bombers. Dove in, managed to shoot down 2, and damaged a third.

Taught those Capitalist lackey's a lesson they soon won't forget.

I love setting my ARC-5 for the home air base prior to my mission. Sure came in handy today, when the sun was setting. Made it home just fine.

Is vulching (shooting planes in the landing pattern/approach phase) at their own airport (i.e. Guadata) allowed on the Korea1952! Server? I was shot down by Modeus while approaching Gud and had slowed down for landing. Many Servers will state "Vulching not allowed." I am new to DCS World so I do not know what is allowed on these Multiplayer Servers. Not mentioned in briefing pages I think. The comments that I got back on chat are: "Its realistic." No. Its not. The gaming of the Server is to come in against very light Anti aircraft fire aerodrome like Gud and then with his low fuel land back at the nearby Neutral aerodrome. If he had to land back at his own base, he would never fly that far after shooting another F-86 down at altitude. I just need to know if vulching/shooting down planes approaching their base or in the landing pattern is allowed. I don't do it and if it was realistic, hundreds of Gud anti-aircraft fire units would open up on the enemy jet and shoot him down. The airbase aaa is very light and not accurate. Some Servers make the AAA very accurate to discourage these attempts to shoot down landing planes.

 

Impossible to learn and fly F-86 on Korean Server but not if I'm going to be shot down on takeoff and landing...

 

I love this Korea! 1952 Server but if this allowed then I will restrict myself and any donations to other Servers. SeaQuark, you are the best for putting this Server up and running again. My enlgish and all the postings I have made are with the help of a friend who says he writes perfect English. Like me, he cannot speak it well so we do not use the Simple Radio.

 

Is vulching allowed on this Server? On all multiplayers DCS Servers? If you want new players to fly on the Server, then I would kick or ban players who shoot down pilots in the landing phase near their airport. The dogfight should be up and away from the aerodromes...not with aircraft with low fuel and/or no ammo returning to land at the airport.

As many times that I've flown on this server, I've never been "vulched". doesn't sound right to have that happen, (but to be honest, I've never seen a note about it. shame on me if it's part of the server notice, but again, I wouldn't support nor do it).

Is vulching (shooting planes in the landing pattern/approach phase) at their own airport (i.e. Guadata) allowed on the Korea1952! Server?

 

Some Servers make the AAA very accurate to discourage these attempts to shoot down landing planes.

Quite simply, my intention was to make the AAA strong enough to discourage people form doing it without having to make an official rule.

All of the AAA units are set to "Expert." Earlier, I added tons and tons of AAA, but this negatively impacted frame-rates when they fired, and people complained-- so I dialed it back.

Perhaps I have dialed it back too far, so I am in the process of adding more AAA units.

Currently I am using:

RED:

Zu-23s

Shilkas

BLUE:

Zu-23s

Vulcans

If you have suggestions to increase AAA lethality without resorting to SAM sites and such, I am all ears.

For the record, I have seen quite a number of foolhardy MiGs crash into the ground near the Blue airbase after being shot up by AAA. But I have also been bounced when RTBing.

Note that there are "air raid" sirens that will alert you to the presence of enemy aircraft at your base.

Woud like to see AI enemy aircraft on Server with various random skill levels to practice with when no live pilots flying?

There will be no AI fighter units, this server is designed to be a pure PvP experience. If few players are on, MiGs do have AI bombers to shoot down, and Sabres do have ground attack missions.

The AAA at Gudata is just fine. Works REALLY well. I'm new to all this (Ok, I bought LoMac when it came out and have had it all since, but never really MP'd much) and had no idea there was AAA there. Hey I was just doing a friendly fly-by :)

I would add, I started doing MP regularly a little over a month ago. So far, this server has been absolutely the best I've been on. Seems like pretty decent people there and it appears to people make an effort to keep it balanced. AND there were people ACTUALLY USING SRS to coordinate on the ground and in the air.

Thanks for the cool server.

Big news for all Sabre pilots who fly on the server! I am very pleased to announce the 39th Virtual Fighter Squadron:

Presented by Invisibull (39th Sqdn. Leader) and SeaQuark (host of KOREA! 1952).

Click here for the Official Announcement for more information & instructions on how to join. Visit our website, and check out our Standard Operating Procedures (PDF format), to see if the 39th is right for you!

Almost every Sabre I see departing Gudata..er.. sorry K13 - has drop tanks on which tells me that most of the pilots understand the requirement for sufficient fuel for a sortie. Most of those that do not have tanks are loaded with bombs and rockets and I assume they are going on a short CAS mission and will RTB as soon as they are done anyway.

I don't think that a fuel limit or max fuel rule is needed or enforceable. At least I know of no simple way to do that in the editor. Pilots should choose their fuel load out like they do weapons, selected for the task they are planning to execute.