MobiSev Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) title. Unless they posted somewhere I am unaware of. Edited July 11, 2019 by MobiSev Modules owned: FC3, M-2000C, Mig-21bis, F-5E, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, KA-50, Mi-8, F-14A&B, JF-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33-DFTC Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 From Razbam's previous official statement, all work on planes but the Mirage 2000, the AV-8B and MiG-19 has been suspended until the first three modules are completed. There are only two types of aircraft, fighters and targets. - Major Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson, USMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Firefly Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Exactly. Their next release is the MiG-23, so the F-15E is years away. DCS module wishlist: F-104S ASA-M Starfighter / F-111F Aardvark / F-4E Phantom II / J 35F2 Draken / J-7M AirGuard / Kfir C.2 / MiG-17F / MiG-21 Bison / Mirage F1 / Su-17M4 / Su-24M / Yak-9U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backspace340 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Exactly. Their next release is the MiG-23, so the F-15E is years away. What makes you say the Mig-23 is next? The F-15 model & textures seem much further ahead judging by what they've released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDieing Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 RAZBAM has confirmed that the team that worked on the MiG-19 will work on the MiG-23 after its done. Looking at complexity, available coders in their team, I'd put my money on the Flogger before the Mudhen aswell. ''Greed is a bottomless pit which exhausts the person in an endless effort to satisfy the need without ever reaching satisfaction.'' Erich Fromm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knock-Knock Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 How much is shared between the AV8B and F-15E actually? Id imagine quite a bit, since they both are MD? - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 How much is shared between the AV8B and F-15E actually? Id imagine quite a bit, since they both are MD? There is a ton of commonality between the harrier and the F18 as well. But as it turns out the same system seems to work somewhat differently between the two (RWR as an example). New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogey Jammer Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 What makes you say the Mig-23 is next? The F-15 model & textures seem much further ahead judging by what they've released. The 3D model has to be reworked, the screenshots are too old. Then the avionics and flight model… oh lala :lol: You can wait at least 5 years to get decent news, and the F-15E is on the development waiting list. The hype should stop. I'll buy : МиГ-23МЛД & МЛА МиГ-27К МиГ-25 Mirage III F-4E any IJ plane 1950' Korea Dynamic campaign module Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Besides everyone wants the Mig23 more anyway ;) New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzaiib Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Besides everyone wants the Mig23 more anyway ;) lol keep believin' this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backspace340 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 The 3D model has to be reworked, the screenshots are too old. Then the avionics and flight model… oh lala :lol: You can wait at least 5 years to get decent news, and the F-15E is on the development waiting list. The hype should stop. The screenshots are from this year, it's the Mig-23 that is going through a complete remodel, certainly seems like the 15E is already most of the way through the modelling process (they've shown the external model within the last year too). They've obviously paused development while they finish the Mirage, Harrier and Mig-19, but before that they were claiming the 15E would be finished within months of June 2018, which they've obviously revised but I wouldn't expect it to be 5 years if they were estimating less than a year 12 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frixon28 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Not anytime soon lol. The F-15E will be the most complex DCS module to date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-P51DMustang- Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Well their teams are split... They got "red" team working on Mig 19 and Mig 23 who join Razbam with their own coder, they got "blue" team working on AV8 and Mirage and F15E with their old coder. And then map team working on faklands :) But once razbam is done with AV8 and Mirage, F15 will came back. On their discord, they said it was plan to come this winter. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobiSev Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 On their discord, they said it was plan to come this winter. :) Hahaha "We plan for the 15 to come this winter" = eh...maybe in 10 years time Modules owned: FC3, M-2000C, Mig-21bis, F-5E, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, KA-50, Mi-8, F-14A&B, JF-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.SquirrelBoy12 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 On their discord, they said it was plan to come this winter. :) I dont exactly recall seeing this anywhere on their discord... Modules: FC3, A-10C, M2000C, MiG-21bis, F-86F, AV-8B NA, F/A-18C, F-14A/B, F-16C, F-15E, F-4E, A-29, Eurofighter Typhoon, A-6E, MiG-23MLA, Nevada, Persian Gulf, South Atlantic, Syria, Afghanistan Specs: Intel i7 2600K, Nvidea GTX 980, 16GB RAM, NVMe SSD, Saitek X-55, TrackIR 5, Samsung Odyssey VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra99 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) It's funny... This time last year the F-16C was a rumor and everyone said it would be 4-6 years... The beginning of this year the F-16C was announced and everyone said "Oh sure...we'll see it in 5-6 years" Now it is on track to be released in a few months... Yet the standard response when people mention upcoming projects is "oh it'll be years" Me thinks you underestimate modern flight sim development. Edited July 28, 2019 by Sierra99 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) It's funny... This time last year the F-16C was a rumor and everyone said it would be 4-6 years... The beginning of this year the F-16C was announced and everyone said "Oh sure...we'll see it in 5-6 years" Now it is on track to be released in a few months... Yet the standard response when people mention upcoming projects is "oh it'll be years" Me thinks you underestimate modern flight sim development. From 2008: As for after DCS: Black Shark, work continues on other aircraft modules. Although these are certainly works in progress and hardly complete, I have attached a few development cockpit images of the F-16C and Mi-24. ;) Edited July 29, 2019 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beppe_goodoldrebel Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 I guess the Mudhen work will get on its way when the Hornet is completed. Not because the Hornet is somehow similar but because that means all new libraries/functions/etc. are pretty much done and you dont run against bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo03 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) From 2008: As for after DCS: Black Shark, work continues on other aircraft modules. Although these are certainly works in progress and hardly complete, I have attached a few development cockpit images of the F-16C and Mi-24. ;) Ok ..... in 2008 we had a different roadmap. ED planned to release the following modules at 9 month intervals: 1- A-10A-Version 2 (latest active version in service) 2- A-10C-Version 3 3- AH-64A Blk. 49A 4- Su-27 5- F-15C 6- Mi-24V 7- F-16C 8- MiG-29A Just a bit of calculation - we should have gotten our Viper already in 2012/13. And IIRC Wags even mentioned once that most probably there will be no F-16 from ED in DCS World at all (unfortunately i didn't find the post anymore). As we can see - there is more subject to change than just features of modules or release dates ;) Edited July 30, 2019 by Gizmo03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogey Jammer Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 As we can see - there is more subject to change than just features of modules or release dates ;) We are talking about Razbam here, not ED. Let's face the reality, facts and history of Razbam are not making any room for hope for some earlier release date than expected AT ALL. I'll buy : МиГ-23МЛД & МЛА МиГ-27К МиГ-25 Mirage III F-4E any IJ plane 1950' Korea Dynamic campaign module Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo03 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) We are talking about Razbam here, not ED. Let's face the reality, facts and history of Razbam are not making any room for hope for some earlier release date than expected AT ALL. That's right - i agree. But i was refering to QuiGons post and the quote of Wags - Wags is still ED not RAZBAM, isn't he?? I just wanted to mention that things are changing a lot - especially after 11 years. I don't think that ED is developing the F-16 since 2008. Edited July 30, 2019 by Gizmo03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogey Jammer Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I don't think that ED is developing the F-16 since 2008. Actually yes, it's the little brother of the F-18 module from which it got most of the code, and that was in development since those times. That's why they brag for a "fast" F-16 release although it's partially a lie because: F-18 is unfinished, still requires years to complete. Uncompleted F-18 means uncompleted F-16. Still no AG radar in sight, too bad for the F-15E supposed to rely on the same code framework. As a side note, Razbam's F-15E will certainly not get as much code from ED as the F-16 currently does. I'll buy : МиГ-23МЛД & МЛА МиГ-27К МиГ-25 Mirage III F-4E any IJ plane 1950' Korea Dynamic campaign module Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I have no issue with ED leveraging their F18 code for the F16, and even less issue with Razbam leveraging ED code for the F15 or an AV8B+ model. But that does definitely put the pressure on ED to deliver said code (radar/EW/FLIR) in a timely manner. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guram Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Any updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=DECOY= Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Any updates? Cockpit modelling and texture work is still on going Water cooled i9-9900K | Maximus Code XI MB | RTX3090 | 64GB | HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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