Thrustmaster Magnetic base

Force sense? Or just a fancy name for the old base - and old grip?

http://www.thrustmaster.com/node/9213

I think they mean that you can now buy the base as standalone unit and buy additional the stick you want.. no longer forced to buy a warthog-stick including the base.. now you can have the base and buy a F-16 stick... but why the hell I should buy a F-16 grip when I have the A-10C grip already?

Way better it would have been if the F-16 Throttle would be re-animated to life….

Looks like they just did al a carte rebranding of the same old parts. So you don’t have to bother repairs to try and buy just the base or just the stick anymore.

Force sense? Or just a fancy name for the old base - and old grip?

 

http://www.thrustmaster.com/node/9213

If just rebranding - it is a big disappointment indeed!

Nevermind. Misread release.

Isn't the hall-effect base a new feature?

No, since release in ~2010 Warthog base use Melexis 3D Hall sensor (MLX-90333).

thd f16 throttle was the cougasr throttle

rather than force sense, it would be good if they make a non-sticky base like vkb or virpil

Like Cupra said, I think it's the base as a standalone product. As for why sell the stick as the F-16 stick, I'm not entirely sure, it would make sence if the F-18 stick would have been sold as a complete unit (with base). Maybe it has the writing on top? Boy that would be trivial... LOL

Although it feels like a rather cheap move by Thrustmaster, it`s totally understandable from a marketing point of view.

Since they started to sell the F18-Grip as a standalone, it`s rather unfair to new customers, to be forced to buy a full Warthog HOTAS or at least the stick and base, just to get a base for their Hornet Stick. It`s only logical to start selling bases only for all those Hornet drivers out there.

I also assume that Thrustmaster did notice, that quite a few people started to ask for replacement Warthog-sticks, so since they already sell the F18 stick as standalone, selling just the Warthog-stick for potential future customers seems logical.

Calling it the F16-Stick may seem like a ripoff, since it`s exactly the same stick as before, but to be fair, DCS F16 and DCS F18 are the newest modules and are attracting new users and therefore new potential customers for Thrustmaster. So again... from a marketing point of view... :D

on the flip side, that means I could buy a VKB base and the F-16 grip and be happy. (if I ever move on from my CH Fighterstick)

thd f16 throttle was the cougasr throttle

Which is neither sold nor supported anymore.

They could do a hall updated Cougar throttle fairly easily, but I suspect people want a switch console with throttles now so the whole base would have to be redone which may not be cost effective.

• Compatible on PC with the following Thrustmaster flight stick grips:
  
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• HOTAS Cougar™,
  
• HOTAS Warthog™,
  
• F-16C Viper™
  
• F/A-18C Hornet™.
  

people want a switch console with throttles now

throttle grip+base as a single unit.

that would allow for model specific detents, direction of movement, and various distances of travel

unmount, unplug, and store when not needed (or want to switch)

on the flip side, that means I could buy a VKB base and the F-16 grip and be happy. (if I ever move on from my CH Fighterstick)

Virpil base, VKB uses a different mounting system.

Virpil base, VKB uses a different mounting system.

Correct - you would have to order the mount adapter from VKB to mount the TM stick.

Correct - you would have to order the mount adapter from VKB to mount the TM stick.

Problem is find one on sales. :D

Problem is find one on sales. :D

What do they look like? Maybe a 3D printed one is a possibilty?

Problem is find one on sales. :D

Yes, they suddenly show up and then are gone very quickly. I managed to get notified on the last one and ordered it as soon as possible. It works on both the WH Throttle and with a little bit of filing, it fits the F-18 and works just fine.

What do they look like? Maybe a 3D printed one is a possibilty?

Really needs to be metal as the tensions can be great.

Go to VKB website and check out their offerings/accessories. It is shown there. Quite a substantial product.

What I would like to see is a modification that is the TM screw ring adapted to the VKB mount. That would open up many doors for sales for VKB (IMHO).

That way, I could keep the standard TM ring mount as provided by TM and screw it onto a ring adapter from VKB.

Many people do not want to open a new Joystick and nullify their warranty to install the current VKB adapter.

Surely this could be achievable by VKB? or . . . . our brilliant third party enthusiasts?

Really needs to be metal as the tensions can be great.

Go to VKB website and check out their offerings/accessories. It is shown there. Quite a substantial product.

I think even a Nylon SLS part should be strong enough, but you could print in metal as well. If someone could give me the dimensions I would try.

Ive been using a purely SLS 3D printed Thrustmaster connector for two years on my BRD DS gimbal. I either use it with my Cougar grip or CH grip with a 3D printed tailpiece. Here have a look at the pictures.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/4NJ2VN97E/brd-ds-to-thrustmaster-virpil-vkb-adapter-ver-a?optionId=64716525&li=shop-inventory

https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26942&p=300039&viewfull=1#post300039

https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26475&p=292690&viewfull=1#post292690

Edit: It seems there is a proprietary 3 wire to 5 wire SPI board included. Would need to analyze it as well of youre not only using TM grips.

Old base, new stickers. At least that's what it looks like.

And they sell a new F-16C/A-10 addon grip for 179,99 euro.

Bought the same addon grip directly form Thrustmaster few months ago for 100 euro + 17 euro shipping.