Herkyman Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 It was on sale, so why not. Went to youtube and found a few videos where they review it and recommend it. So why not? Go in to training... only 2 missions. I can start the plane, I can taxi and take off. Now what?? Where do I learn how to do anything else... where do I learn how to land... dog fight.... ground attack... etc? Where do I learn how to use and set up the MFD's? And then to top it off... my controller throttle will not work with the simulation. Have to use NUM PAD + and - to throttle up or down... WTF? It fly's pretty! But that is all I can seem to be able to do now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliMonkey Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 For the F16 a startup, takeoff, landing and a few ground attack training lessons are available. In order to understand A-A systems , the TGG, the radar, navigation systems and so on you can either watch youtube tutorials or read the F16 guide for DCS. It is not too hard to learn those things without training missions. Just create a custom mission with the mission editor and try new things after or while watching the tutorial. This is the link for the guide: https://srv13files.eagle.ru/dcs/manuals/DCS-F-16C_Early_Access_Guide_EN.pdf#page105 Here is a link to the youtube tutorial series from Wags: Ka 50 - MIG 21 - FW 190 D9 - SU 27 - F15 - F 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 For the F16 a startup, takeoff, landing and a few ground attack training lessons are available. In order to understand A-A systems , the TGG, the radar, navigation systems and so on you can either watch youtube tutorials or read the F16 guide for DCS. It is not too hard to learn those things without training missions. Just create a custom mission with the mission editor and try new things after or while watching the tutorial. This is the link for the guide: https://srv13files.eagle.ru/dcs/manuals/DCS-F-16C_Early_Access_Guide_EN.pdf#page105 Here is a link to the youtube tutorial series from Wags: He’s obviously on stable if only seeing 2 TMs. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 It's early access, so more missions will be added in time. As was said. The manual is your best bet. Plus, some tutorials on YouTube. https://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=676 Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 A certain other Viper sim has a plethora of valuable documents... "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 It was on sale, so why not. Went to youtube and found a few videos where they review it and recommend it. So why not? Go in to training... only 2 missions. I can start the plane, I can taxi and take off. Now what?? Where do I learn how to do anything else... where do I learn how to land... dog fight.... ground attack... etc? Where do I learn how to use and set up the MFD's? And then to top it off... my controller throttle will not work with the simulation. Have to use NUM PAD + and - to throttle up or down... WTF? It fly's pretty! But that is all I can seem to be able to do now... It's not even close to finished. Training missions are kind of a ''later in lifecycle'' thing, for obvious reasons, just like manuals. That said, minimal effort on your part should be able to turn up manuals, tutorials etc from real aircraft or something like Falcon, even if it's not 100% accurate, it should definitely get you started in the right direction. As for your throttle, provide some details. It works fine afaik, and all game controllers are functionally the same on the backend. There's no reason one would work and another wouldn't unless something was corrupted or malfunctioning. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnadentod Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 A certain other Viper sim has a plethora of valuable documents...... which was in development and released literally years before DCS F16 work even began and only focused on mainly one plane ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 There are about 10 training missions now in the OB version. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Aquila* Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 A certain other Viper sim has a plethora of valuable documents... Many of them are useless in DCS because many features are massively WIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 ... which was in development and released literally years before DCS F16 work even began and only focused on mainly one plane ever. Right, and we are talking of the F16....:megalol: "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regards Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 First things first..... Invest in mastering take-offs and landings... Dare to crash over and over again. Since DCS is a sim, you can simply restart and try again. Only after you feel comfortable with the bird, you can step up to weapon systems and how to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 I suggest learning to land/takeoff and then navigation. Then go to weapons. Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Kazansky Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) Whenever I get a new module I spend a lot of time at Nellis AFB on the NTTR map. Have some trucks and tanks placed 20 miles north in the training area and start with Mk82 bombs. Later go with LGBs or JDAMs.... I like that feeling of learning the plane, systems and weapons at that authentic area. Edited March 23, 2020 by Tom Kazansky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Cuckoo Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 As for your throttle, provide some details. It works fine afaik, and all game controllers are functionally the same on the backend. There's no reason one would work and another wouldn't unless something was corrupted or malfunctioning. No, it's true. I had the same problem with the F16 and a number of other aircraft. There is something funky about the throttle. I usually have clear it and remap it once when I first get a new aircraft. I'm not certain what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWJ Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 I usually have clear it and remap it once when I first get a new aircraft. I'm not certain what's going on. Clearing the default mappings and axis and remapping them is a must for practically every AC. I really don't know why ED insists on providing bogus default mapping like POV and trigger on every single controller that is connected. Danger zone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Get on the stick. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herkyman Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 What is OB version and how can we get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herkyman Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 I have a Logitech Extreme 3D pro. The throttle slider works on F-18 fine. I tried the Hornet when it was available to try. Got Viper because I spent 10 years in USAF... it's a pride thing! When I go to control setup, it will not recognize the slider when I move it. If I click in the box it shows ALL the other buttons in the joystick except the slider. I been using the + and - in the num keypad and it works fine. It just feels awkward as I have to either let go of the stick to press the buttons or reach over with my left hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 You don't have to choose the slider. Just move the slider and it should see it. Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomTOTEN Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Herkyman, What you're describing is the binding process for joystick buttons. The slider is not a button, it's an axis. I use the exact same joystick for the Viper. BuzzU and Herkyman, moving the control doesn't work for axis commands, you have to select it from the drop down list for the device. Choose the F-16C Controls, select the category "Axis Commands," scroll down until you see the appropriately named "Thrust/Throttle" (I'm away from my PC to find the proper terminology, use some common sense here). Delete all bindings for all controllers for this input (leave the keyboard commands unchanged if there are any). For the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, the slider axis is identified with SLIDER_1. Double click on the Thrust axis in the joystick column, and from the axis drop down select the correct axis ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Herkyman, What you're describing is the binding process for joystick buttons. The slider is not a button, it's an axis. I use the exact same joystick for the Viper. BuzzU and Herkyman, moving the control doesn't work for axis commands, you have to select it from the drop down list for the device. Choose the F-16C Controls, select the category "Axis Commands," scroll down until you see the appropriately named "Thrust/Throttle" (I'm away from my PC to find the proper terminology, use some common sense here). Delete all bindings for all controllers for this input (leave the keyboard commands unchanged if there are any). For the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, the slider axis is identified with SLIDER_1. Double click on the Thrust axis in the joystick column, and from the axis drop down select the correct axis ID. You got me curious. I have a 3D Pro that someone gave me a long time ago. I just plugged it in and went into axis commands. The throttle was assigned to Z axis and didn't work. I cleared it and hit the add button. I then moved the throttle slider and DCS saw it. Just like any other controller i've setup. I'm not sure why that doesn't work for you guys? Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmat01 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 There are about 10 training missions now in the OB version. Not all of us use OB too buggy. But its good to know that they are coming :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmat01 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 No, it's true. I had the same problem with the F16 and a number of other aircraft. There is something funky about the throttle. I usually have clear it and remap it once when I first get a new aircraft. I'm not certain what's going on. This should be done for every aircraft. The fist thing to do is go to the controls menu & map your axis commands then your buttons. Then go through & clear all the duplicate commands in the other axis eg: rudder ect. You cant just jump into an aircraft & expect everything to be bound set up & everything to be happy This is PC simming. DCS is a complex beast & sometimes needs a bit of a tickle to calm her down. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmat01 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I have a Logitech Extreme 3D pro. Might be time to invest in a new controller. It will let you get more out of DCS. if you don't want to spend to much $$$$$$ on a Warthog HOTAS & rudder pedals. May I suggest the Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS. It has good amount of buttons :thumbup::D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmat01 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) Herkyman, " (I'm away from my PC to find the proper terminology, use some common sense here). :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol: Sorry couldn't help myself :D:thumbup: Edited March 27, 2020 by mrmat01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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