SUBS17 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1st flight DCS F-16, Deep Stall departure and crash. Awesome work the devs on the DCS F-16.:thumbup: [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scofflaw Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Good job - I've been trying hard to get it to spin, but so far I haven't had any luck. The impact of your jet looked somewhat survivable though. I've hit the ground harder with the KA50. ;) run come save me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I’m not sure the F-16 will spin in the conventional sense. But it will certainly deep stall. The pitch override works well to rock it back and forth to get the AoA back under the critical limit. Only time I’ve managed it was the top of a vertical climb and manoeuvring with an asymmetric CAT III load in CAT 1 and departing the aircraft rather unexpectedly lol. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBS17 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 I’m not sure the F-16 will spin in the conventional sense. But it will certainly deep stall. The pitch override works well to rock it back and forth to get the AoA back under the critical limit. Only time I’ve managed it was the top of a vertical climb and manoeuvring with an asymmetric CAT III load in CAT 1 and departing the aircraft rather unexpectedly lol. Is that another version? Because the MPO ain't modelled yet, the button is not working from what I've seen. I'll try CAT III and see what happens.:pilotfly: [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBS17 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 DCS F-16 Inverted Spin Departure with Recovery. No MPO yet. :joystick: [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 MPO does indeed work. Get it in a deep stall and flick and hold the switch, you’ll see you get a lot more stab movement. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBS17 Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 The switch is not clickable. [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 What? Yes it is. It’s a spring loaded switch on the real aircraft. Which is required to be held by the pilot. In the “other sim” it is a toggle switch which stays where you put it, this is not correct to the real aircraft. In the DCS F-16 it’s best to bind it to a switch or button so you can press/hold it with your left hand and fly with your right hand. As per the real aircraft. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lange_666 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Good job - I've been trying hard to get it to spin, but so far I haven't had any luck. It's not really a spin, it's a slow yaw left to right and back. Been in the same situation already three times, no luck in getting out of it yet. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind combat pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 It's not really a spin, it's a slow yaw left to right and back. Been in the same situation already three times, no luck in getting out of it yet. It's not hard if you've got the height. Hold Manual Pitch Override and then rock the aircraft back and forth in pitch until you get it far enough down that it starts flying again. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lange_666 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I had the altitude but i was not aware of what the Manual Pitch Override did (or does) so i rocked it back and forward, left and right and all other stuff you can think of but that wasn't enough. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind combat pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I had the altitude but i was not aware of what the Manual Pitch Override did (or does) so i rocked it back and forward, left and right and all other stuff you can think of but that wasn't enough. Go give it a try, its quite fun! :lol: Said no real F-16 pilot ever. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeagle Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 OP...you never powered out or rolled the bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lange_666 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 That is not possible in this case (at least not if not using the Manual Pitch Override). Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind combat pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBS17 Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 Go give it a try, its quite fun! :lol: Said no real F-16 pilot ever. Do you have a track and video of it? [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrz Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Go give it a try, its quite fun! :lol: It does work, but fun? Rather scary because you are loosing quite a bit of altitude! There are definitely more funny things to do with the F-16 ;) i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Do you have a track and video of it? I'll make one a little later for you. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Do you have a track and video of it? Here you go. Sorry it took me a few days to find the time to make it. when I first got into the deep stall I tried to recover without using the MPO, notice no surface movement. I then flick and HOLD the MPO switch on and rock it back and forth until the nose is low enough to get out of a the stall.F-16 Deepstall Recovery.trk Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouli306 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 OP...you never powered out or rolled the bird. You never power out of a deepstall. Because of the large AOA the engines airflow throughout intake is screende. You need to go to idle before working the MPO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBS17 Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 Here you go. Sorry it took me a few days to find the time to make it. when I first got into the deep stall I tried to recover without using the MPO, notice no surface movement. I then flick and HOLD the MPO switch on and rock it back and forth until the nose is low enough to get out of a the stall. Good recovery.:thumbup: [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBS17 Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 Some Aerobatics and Departures with Recovery in the DCS F-16. [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrz Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Do you have a timestamp for the parts with the departures? i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBS17 Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) I did them a couple of days ago. Edited October 13, 2019 by SUBS17 [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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