VR Shaders mod for better VR experience

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27 минут назад, edmuss сказал:

If you turn off the simple glass shader in hmd.hlsl on kegetys shader mod it gets rid of the static cockpit reflections. I've noticed no significant loss of performance because of it.

Cockpit glass and HUD I solved by liveries and some textures from mods, but how to kill reflections from instruments on a10c and Ka-50? Will backup my fxo and metashaders and give it a try later today.

32 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

so 

#define ENABLE_SIMPLE_CANOPY  0

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17 minutes ago, Fiztex said:

Cockpit glass and HUD I solved by liveries and some textures from mods, but how to kill reflections from instruments on a10c and Ka-50? Will backup my fxo and metashaders and give it a try later today.

 

Yup

That gets rid of the static baked in reflections on the A10 and KA50 for me, both from HUD, canopy and guages/MFDs

awesome i will give it a go.  

Simple canopy = 0

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albedo supersampling = 4 (edit: whatever the maximum value is)

are my immediate go to changes on the various versions of kegetys mod. I simply cannot get 3Dmigoto to work along side it* and I personally see better quality and performance with Clearwater.

*The albedo supersampling gives better text clarity for me than the HUD/MFD sharpening.

1 hour ago, edmuss said:

Simple canopy = 0

and

albedo supersampling = 4 (edit: whatever the maximum value is)

*The albedo supersampling gives better text clarity for me than the HUD/MFD sharpening.

 

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This is what I'm using, and it works well. But obviously still shimmers

// optimisations: change 1 to 0 to disable
#define ENABLE_SIMPLE_SHADOWS 1 // Use less samples in shadow mapping
#define ENABLE_SIMPLE_GRASS   0 // Simplified grass
#define ENABLE_SIMPLE_CANOPY  0 // Simplified canopy glass
#define ENABLE_SIMPLE_HG      1 // Simplified histogram calculation
#define ENABLE_NO_BLOOM       1 // Disable bloom & color grading
#define ENABLE_SIMPLE_TRANS   0 // Enable simple transparent object shading (propellers, smoke, etc.)

// improvements
#define ENABLE_DITHERING          1 // Use dithering in HDR tonemap to reduce banding, may cause moire artifacts at edges of lenses
#define ENABLE_DIFFUSE_SS         4 // Albedo texture supersampling. 0=off, 1=2x, 2=4x, 3=6x, 4=8x
#define ENABLE_TERRAIN_SHADOW_MS  1 // Read multi-sampled terrain shadows
#define ENABLE_ATOC               1 // Enable alpha-to-coverage
#define NVG_GAIN_ADJUSTS_POSITION 0 // with this enabled the NVG gain control instead adjusts the vertical position allowing in-game adjustment with fixed gain (NVG_VERTICAL_OFFSET is ignored)

// other settings
#define NVG_SIZE                  2.5     // size of the NVG scope (larger value = smaller scope)
#define NVG_VERTICAL_OFFSET       0.07    // vertical position of the NVG scope, for allowing to "look under" the goggles at instruments
#define NVG_NOISE_STR             0.035   // NVG noise strength
#define NVG_HOTPIXEL_THRESHOLD    0.99983 // NVG noise threshold for "hot" pixels

15 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

so 

#define ENABLE_DIFFUSE_SS         4

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Yup that's the one, seems to clean up the cockpit text a little.

Rolling back to 2.5.6 front you also loose the various aircraft systems additions added since then? Like DTOS and other hmcs improvements to the f16 for example?

2 часа назад, edmuss сказал:

Simple canopy = 0

and

albedo supersampling = 4 (edit: whatever the maximum value is)

are my immediate go to changes on the various versions of kegetys mod. I simply cannot get 3Dmigoto to work along side it* and I personally see better quality and performance with Clearwater.

*The albedo supersampling gives better text clarity for me than the HUD/MFD sharpening.

 

Did some testing and simple canopy = 0 doesn't seem like a good solution, it eats around 10% of GPU although indeed solves reflection problem - if I use it I can't do PD 1.1 and I'd very much prefer to as it looks great with msaa 4x. Also didn't notice difference between #define ENABLE_DIFFUSE_SS 4 and 2, 2 is good enough for full res Quest 2 though. Will try to find a way to kill responsible texture and see how it goes.

29 minutes ago, Sr. said:

Rolling back to 2.5.6 front you also loose the various aircraft systems additions added since then? Like DTOS and other hmcs improvements to the f16 for example?

Yes because thats not included in 2.5.6. Thats the whole point of rolling back.

3 hours ago, edmuss said:

 

Yup

That gets rid of the static baked in reflections on the A10 and KA50 for me, both from HUD, canopy and guages/MFDs

This is what I use for the A-10, I think it's a Taz mod.

1 hour ago, zildac said:

This is what I'm using, and it works well. But obviously still shimmers

// optimisations: change 1 to 0 to disable
#define ENABLE_SIMPLE_SHADOWS 1 // Use less samples in shadow mapping
#define ENABLE_SIMPLE_GRASS   0 // Simplified grass
#define ENABLE_SIMPLE_CANOPY  0 // Simplified canopy glass
#define ENABLE_SIMPLE_HG      1 // Simplified histogram calculation
#define ENABLE_NO_BLOOM       1 // Disable bloom & color grading
#define ENABLE_SIMPLE_TRANS   0 // Enable simple transparent object shading (propellers, smoke, etc.)

// improvements
#define ENABLE_DITHERING          1 // Use dithering in HDR tonemap to reduce banding, may cause moire artifacts at edges of lenses
#define ENABLE_DIFFUSE_SS         4 // Albedo texture supersampling. 0=off, 1=2x, 2=4x, 3=6x, 4=8x
#define ENABLE_TERRAIN_SHADOW_MS  1 // Read multi-sampled terrain shadows
#define ENABLE_ATOC               1 // Enable alpha-to-coverage
#define NVG_GAIN_ADJUSTS_POSITION 0 // with this enabled the NVG gain control instead adjusts the vertical position allowing in-game adjustment with fixed gain (NVG_VERTICAL_OFFSET is ignored)

// other settings
#define NVG_SIZE                  2.5     // size of the NVG scope (larger value = smaller scope)
#define NVG_VERTICAL_OFFSET       0.07    // vertical position of the NVG scope, for allowing to "look under" the goggles at instruments
#define NVG_NOISE_STR             0.035   // NVG noise strength
#define NVG_HOTPIXEL_THRESHOLD    0.99983 // NVG noise threshold for "hot" pixels

Are these lines you're adding to _HMD.hlsl  ?

12 минут назад, Sr. сказал:

This is what I use for the A-10, I think it's a Taz mod.

 

 

Are these lines you're adding to _HMD.hlsl  ?

This is how I got rid of reflections from cockpit glass and HUD without any loss in FPS for a10c and Ka-50 (devrim textures), but how to do the same with instruments is still unknown to me. 3dmigoto allowed to kill all cockpit reflections on a shader level and it worked for the price of ~3-5% GPU, but I don't have a version for 2.5.6, unfortunately. Looked through textures but can't really understand where these reflections are coming from.

48 minutes ago, Fiztex said:

Did some testing and simple canopy = 0 doesn't seem like a good solution, it eats around 10% of GPU although indeed solves reflection problem - if I use it I can't do PD 1.1 and I'd very much prefer to as it looks great with msaa 4x. Also didn't notice difference between #define ENABLE_DIFFUSE_SS 4 and 2, 2 is good enough for full res Quest 2 though. Will try to find a way to kill responsible texture and see how it goes.

I'll have a play with the simple canopy on/off and see if I can notice a difference, it may be that there is performance gain but I just never noticed it with all the other changes I've made. I'm certainly not as thorough as @speed-of-heat at testing and recording!

If you're using Nvidia, enable MFAA and knock MSAA down to 2x, big performance jump there

Только что, edmuss сказал:

I'll have a play with the simple canopy on/off and see if I can notice a difference, it may be that there is performance gain but I just never noticed it with all the other changes I've made. I'm certainly not as thorough as @speed-of-heat at testing and recording!

If you're using Nvidia, enable MFAA and knock MSAA down to 2x, big performance jump there

I don't think MFAA works with DCS, but will give it a try.

Just now, Fiztex said:

I don't think MFAA works with DCS, but will give it a try.

It does, and very well indeed

Beirut rooftops with mostly high settings 2x MSAA+MFAA is as good as 4x MSAA but frametimes are 16-18 rather than 22-26.

Where do you enable MFAA, in nvidia control panel maybe?

6 minutes ago, tomeye said:

Where do you enable MFAA, in nvidia control panel maybe?

Yes, MFAA only works if MSAA is applied to the output. Turning MFAA on if you don't run MSAA in dcs does nothing.

8 минут назад, edmuss сказал:

It does, and very well indeed

Beirut rooftops with mostly high settings 2x MSAA+MFAA is as good as 4x MSAA but frametimes are 16-18 rather than 22-26.

You are right, it really does, thanks Also switched off trees and objects shadows with this:

And now I have 30% of my GPU to spare on something else

41 minutes ago, Sr. said:

This is what I use for the A-10, I think it's a Taz mod.

 

 

Are these lines you're adding to _HMD.hlsl  ?

They're already in _HMD.hsl.

Good stuff, I like the terrain shadows so I leave them in and take the frametime hit.

If I can run over Beirut rooftops at 22ms peak then I'm happy, running at 60hz I still have bags of GPU overhead (up to 30ms before motion smoothing drops out). If I go skyward then frametimes are down to 13-15ms on the same settings.

2 минуты назад, edmuss сказал:

Good stuff, I like the terrain shadows so I leave them in and take the frametime hit.

If I can run over Beirut rooftops at 22ms peak then I'm happy, running at 60hz I still have bags of GPU overhead (up to 30ms before motion smoothing drops out). If I go skyward then frametimes are down to 13-15ms on the same settings.

Terrain shadows are still there in 2.5.6 with that mod, so the sunsets and dawns are not ruined, only trees and buildings shadows are nerfed and I can live without them. Ended up with 1.15 PD and msaa 2x + MFAA and it looks the best I've seen so far I'm targeting 72 fps and motion smoothing is disabled, so I need everything I can get with as much clarity as possible.

1 minute ago, Fiztex said:

Terrain shadows are still there in 2.5.6 with that mod, so the sunsets and dawns are not ruined, only trees and buildings shadows are nerfed and I can live without them. Ended up with 1.15 PD and msaa 2x + MFAA and it looks the best I've seen so far I'm targeting 72 fps and motion smoothing is disabled, so I need everything I can get with as much clarity as possible.

There is no terrain shadows PROJECTION from mountains. Look my pictures in the other thread for a comparison.

2 минуты назад, Gryzor сказал:

There is no terrain shadows PROJECTION from mountains. Look my pictures in the other thread for a comparison.

Do you have the mod to keep mountain shadows on?

Just now, Fiztex said:

Do you have the mod to keep mountain shadows on?

Look for the latest Migoto3D mod from Lefuneste user, you could remove only flat shadows generated by objects, leaving intact terrain projected shadows.