Spudknocker Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Well I hope they dont leave us with just a basic F-14A and B. I would really hope we also get an F-14D and if that is not feasible they should at least incorporate post 1992-5 air to ground capabilities for the A and B. Oh how I long to drop LGB's from a Tomcat! After all of that DCS really needs an F-15E [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Spudknocker DCS World YouTube Channel!! RTX 2080 Ti - i7-7700K - 32GB RAM - DCS on 1TB EVO 970 M.2 SSD - Logitech X56 HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrape Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 If it's complete I will be satisfied with the A and B. "It's amazing, even at the Formula 1 level how many drivers still think the brakes are for slowing the car down." VF-2 Bounty Hunters [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westr Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 +1 Well I say that but I would just love to see a Tornado. But you know what I mean. RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfK33 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 But you know what I mean. Exactly. Hence the "+1" :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Heatblur like to push the sim foward with each module and bring something new to the table. Tornado is just a summation of Viggen and F-14 advancements, so I doubt it would be their choice. A multi-engine prop would be new, or a >2 engine jet, for example. Uhm, did you read Cobras comment on the first page of this thread? We're working on another complex jet which will make good use of our own technologies. That doesn't sound like a prop aircraft, but speaks for another multicrew aircraft. They're putting a lot of work in JESTER AI and doing all that for just one aircraft would not be very efficient. Edited December 16, 2017 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrape Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 A compelling observation. "It's amazing, even at the Formula 1 level how many drivers still think the brakes are for slowing the car down." VF-2 Bounty Hunters [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Uhm, did you read Cobras comment on the first page of this thread? That doesn't sound like a prop aircraft, but speaks for another multicrew aircraft. They're putting a lot of work in JESTER AI and doing all that for just one aircraft would not be very efficient. I have seen that, hence why I also put ">2 engine jets" :) As an aside, their complex jet isn't necessarily their next project. You just hope it is. Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Might Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 An multi crew RAF Tornado any version, Would fit nicely in DCS A must have for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicatt Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I have seen that, hence why I also put ">2 engine jets" :) As an aside, their complex jet isn't necessarily their next project. You just hope it is.B52? A BUFF staring in Flight of the old dog :D Sons of Dogs, Come Eat Flesh Clan Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert31178 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 "Flight of The Old Dog".......lol Patrick Mclanahan agrees with this..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicatt Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Well it was that or Cobra could be throwing us a BONE That would incorporate a lot of the programing they have learned: Multi Crew Swing Wing 4 Engines Sons of Dogs, Come Eat Flesh Clan Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpbordi Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) F-16A si strongely missing, that is curious because lot of documentation available and existing very good simulator like the famous Falcon 4.0, or Falcon allied force, now Falcon BMS. after F15, F14,F5, may be later F4 & F18. it is next one missing to be opponent to M2000, Mig29 Edited December 17, 2017 by jpbordi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) F-16A si strongely missing, that is curious because lot of documentation available and existing very good simulator like the famous Falcon 4.0, or Falcon allied force, now Falcon BMS. after F15, F14,F5, may be later F4 & F18. it is next one missing to be opponent to M2000, Mig29 While that is true, a lot of people keep turning it down cause they have the F/A-18 already. I'd personally welcome the F-16 and really do hope it gets done. Also considering the fact they we're able to make a later variant of the F/A-18 with the AIM-9X, I don't see why a Block 52 with AIM-9X isn't possible Edited December 17, 2017 by carss [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Might Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 If an F-16 was developed, I'd want it to be the F-16N Adversary hotrod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asla36 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I don't think the MiG-29 counts, it's not a full module. In fact, MiG-21bis aside, there is no full-fidelity opponent for the M-2000C (and soon to be F-14, F-18 ). I think that is a more pressing concern. If I was given the choice, I would prioritize an actual MiG-29 (most likely A because documentation should be easier to get from NATO friendly countries) over an F-16. But of course, I would love to see them both make it into DCS! DCS: MiG-23 [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Make it happen, and take my money! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrape Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I don't think the MiG-29 counts, it's not a full module. In fact, MiG-21bis aside, there is no full-fidelity opponent for the M-2000C (and soon to be F-14, F-18 ). I think that is a more pressing concern. If I was given the choice, I would prioritize an actual MiG-29 (most likely A because documentation should be easier to get from NATO friendly countries) over an F-16. But of course, I would love to see them both make it into DCS! Documentation isn't the challenge its permission. Documentation is one thing, but there are legal end and outs to tie up before DCS can do its full fidelity recreation. That's the hold up on the Red side. I hope that they can find a solution to that sooner rather than later. A modern red fighter would sell like hotcakes and breathe fire into the MP servers. Blue team is going to be stacked by 2019. In multiplayer it always comes down to Red vs Blue. "It's amazing, even at the Formula 1 level how many drivers still think the brakes are for slowing the car down." VF-2 Bounty Hunters [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asla36 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Yeah, they did get into legal trouble when trying to make a full fidelity Su-27. However I still think an export (or vanilla) model MiG-29 would be the most realistic variant to expect, as it is the most outdated. But I think a MiG-23 (M-MLA) would be more realistic, and still fit the bill against the F-14 and M-2000C. These (RED side 4th gen fighters) are all, in the end, just pipe dreams that are most likely never going to get realized. And in the end I just get the fear that the reason RAZBAMs MiG-23 got denied was pressure from the government. I sincerely hope I am wrong. DCS: MiG-23 [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Make it happen, and take my money! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 I don't think the MiG-29 counts, it's not a full module. In fact, MiG-21bis aside, there is no full-fidelity opponent for the M-2000C (and soon to be F-14, F-18 ). I think that is a more pressing concern. If I was given the choice, I would prioritize an actual MiG-29 (most likely A because documentation should be easier to get from NATO friendly countries) over an F-16. But of course, I would love to see them both make it into DCS! Not sure if you are aware, but there is a Chinese JF-17 in the works which will be full fidelity and also will have the PL-12 which is an AMRAAM/R-77 equivalent [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rweaves6 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 It would be great to someday have the f16 in DCS. I think a F16(x?) vs ED's fa18c in multiplayer would be a blast and lead to some interesting results. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrape Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 A lot of aircraft need the updated radar tech to be viable sims. I think once 2.5 and the new radar tech is all worked out we will see more aircraft. If you notice they have been cleverly avoiding aircraft with advanced radar for a long time now. You can see that expectation with the development pipeline of aircraft we have now. "It's amazing, even at the Formula 1 level how many drivers still think the brakes are for slowing the car down." VF-2 Bounty Hunters [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oubaas Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Next up after the Tomcat is "DCS: Vought XF5U Flying Flapjack". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 The bottom line is: the F-14 is intended to be the bedrock for the next decade of Heatblur Simulations. We can afford a delay, but we can’t disrespect the F-14 with an underwhelming release. In addition to this, the F-14 is integral to the technologies and methodologies required to complete our ambitious product roadmap, which is chock full of interesting and complex multi seat jet aircraft. My Tornado hopes are still flying high :) Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westr Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Hopefully a Tornado and then maybe a Navy Phantom or an A5 Vigilante. The possibilities are endless. There are lots of cool multi-crew aircraft RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Hopefully a Tornado and then maybe a Navy Phantom or an A5 Vigilante. The possibilities are endless. There are lots of cool multi-crew aircraft I doubt Heatblur will make a Phantom as Belsimtek is already working on one. The differences beteen the navy and the air force variants are too slim imho. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Idea Hat Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Looks like the correct answer is "more Viggen." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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