Rain Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Hey guys, I have been wondering what are the differences in capabilities between F/A-18C and F-15C in regards to Radar Warning Receivers? Comparison is between ALR-67 vs. AN/ALR-56, right? Please give me your input, Regards, Rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudknocker Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 My educated guess would be that just like the radars the F-15's is probably more tuned to air to air threats while the F/A-18 's is more of an all around type system. But they may be very similar just have changes specific to the aircraft in the same way the APG-70 and APG-73 are similar but tuned to the different jobs of the Hornet and Albino Eagle [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Spudknocker DCS World YouTube Channel!! RTX 2080 Ti - i7-7700K - 32GB RAM - DCS on 1TB EVO 970 M.2 SSD - Logitech X56 HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShackleford Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 My guess for DCS F-18 is that it will look and perform the same as the F-15C and A-10C RWR. Symbology and function for DCS F-15C RWR is quite different than what the TEWS on a real F-15 does and looks like, which is understandable because it's all pretty classified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamscanner Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Depends on which ALR-67 we get (ALR-67v2, ALR-67v2(ECP-510), ALR-67v3) But compared to the ALR-56C (TEWS on F-15C) the ALR-67v2 (the most basic one we could get) has some capabilities the TEWS doesn't. -Low band direction finding -Varied Audio tones (dependent on emitter type, lock vs scan, emitter range) -Threat rings instead of relative range -The ALR-67 works and shares data with the radar, datalink, countermeasure dispenser, jammer, HARM. -ALR-67 emitters can be displayed almost everywhere. (Azimuth scope, HUD, JHMCS, SA page, EW Page. it may also go to the A2A radar page? not 100% on that though) -It also incorporates Inertial guidance system (INS) stabilization for accurate display in high g manoeuvres and during high roll maneuvers. Overal the ALR-67 is more modern and provides more information, more audio cues, and works with more systems than the -56C. Sources: https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/an-alr-67.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALR-67_Radar_Warning_Receiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShackleford Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Depends on which ALR-67 we get (ALR-67v2, ALR-67v2(ECP-510), ALR-67v3) But compared to the ALR-56C (TEWS on F-15C) the ALR-67v2 (the most basic one we could get) has some capabilities the TEWS doesn't. -Low band direction finding -Varied Audio tones (dependent on emitter type, lock vs scan, emitter range) -Threat rings instead of relative range -The ALR-67 works and shares data with the radar, datalink, countermeasure dispenser, jammer, HARM. -ALR-67 emitters can be displayed almost everywhere. (Azimuth scope, HUD, JHMCS, SA page, EW Page. it may also go to the A2A radar page? not 100% on that though) -It also incorporates Inertial guidance system (INS) stabilization for accurate display in high g manoeuvres and during high roll maneuvers. Overal the ALR-67 is more modern and provides more information, more audio cues, and works with more systems than the -56C. Sources: https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/an-alr-67.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALR-67_Radar_Warning_Receiver Yeah I understand it is a different and newer system, my point was just that DCS has a somewhat single type of RWR on F-15C and A-10C even though they're very different systems. Would love to have some of this functionality though for sure. Hopefully they can get enough open source data on the ALR-67 to implement it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Actually this list describes stuff that the ALR-56C does in conjunction with TEWS. That system has gone through a number of upgrades itself. I suspect the actual details of the differences are ... not in the public domain :) Exept mayeb for the data-link fusion. Depends on which ALR-67 we get (ALR-67v2, ALR-67v2(ECP-510), ALR-67v3) But compared to the ALR-56C (TEWS on F-15C) the ALR-67v2 (the most basic one we could get) has some capabilities the TEWS doesn't. -Low band direction finding -Varied Audio tones (dependent on emitter type, lock vs scan, emitter range) -Threat rings instead of relative range -The ALR-67 works and shares data with the radar, datalink, countermeasure dispenser, jammer, HARM. -ALR-67 emitters can be displayed almost everywhere. (Azimuth scope, HUD, JHMCS, SA page, EW Page. it may also go to the A2A radar page? not 100% on that though) -It also incorporates Inertial guidance system (INS) stabilization for accurate display in high g manoeuvres and during high roll maneuvers. Overal the ALR-67 is more modern and provides more information, more audio cues, and works with more systems than the -56C. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamscanner Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Well i have found video evidence of the ALR-67 airborne emitters being displayed on the RADAR ATTACK page. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3411089&postcount=18 So now we know that ALR-67 indications/data can be found in the following places. -Azimuth Scope -HUD -JHMCS -SA Page -EW Page -RADAR ATTACK Page 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceHomo Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Depends on which ALR-67 we get (ALR-67v2, ALR-67v2(ECP-510), ALR-67v3) But compared to the ALR-56C (TEWS on F-15C) the ALR-67v2 (the most basic one we could get) has some capabilities the TEWS doesn't. -Low band direction finding -Varied Audio tones (dependent on emitter type, lock vs scan, emitter range) -Threat rings instead of relative range -The ALR-67 works and shares data with the radar, datalink, countermeasure dispenser, jammer, HARM. -ALR-67 emitters can be displayed almost everywhere. (Azimuth scope, HUD, JHMCS, SA page, EW Page. it may also go to the A2A radar page? not 100% on that though) -It also incorporates Inertial guidance system (INS) stabilization for accurate display in high g manoeuvres and during high roll maneuvers. Overal the ALR-67 is more modern and provides more information, more audio cues, and works with more systems than the -56C. Sources: https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/an-alr-67.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALR-67_Radar_Warning_Receiver Now the ALR-67V in the game is not linked with INS. In maneuver, the accuracy of angle measurement is very poor. It's hard to imagine why an ALR-67V should be implemented instead of ALR-67(V)2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Well i have found video evidence of the ALR-67 airborne emitters being displayed on the RADAR ATTACK page. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3411089&postcount=18 So now we know that ALR-67 indications/data can be found in the following places. -Azimuth Scope -HUD -JHMCS -SA Page -EW Page -RADAR ATTACK Page I hope this gets implemented, Having RWR contacts on the Radar Attack page is a game changer for me. The SA page makes it handy too. But from an intercept geometry planning standpoint, the less I have to look away from the scope the better. :) DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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