Pello86 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Hi Guys, I am new to DCS and I am currently learning the ropes by flying missions in Campaign mode in Flamming Cliffs 3. I am struggling to engage Mig 29s and SU27 before they get a good tone and fire a missile at me. I am getting a good radar lock in BVR mode and wait to be close enough before i fire but they engage me first. Does any have any tips or advice which could give me the upper hand. Thanks :pilotfly: Rig: |(CPU)Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-9700K (3.6GHz) 12MB Cache|ASUS® ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING|32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)|11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080TI|2TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE|1TB INTEL® 660p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 1800MB/sR | 1800MB/sW)|CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET|Processor Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler w/ PCS Ultra Quiet Fans Thermal Paste||RIFT S VR| TM HOTAS A10 Warthog :joystick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Get higher, faster, launch earlier. Not much else I can say given your description :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundun92 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 First thing, you need to recognize that the fact that they are firing first doesnt always mean you are doing anything wrong. It could be they are taking max range shots, which are very easy to defeat. What you need to understand is concepts such as the Minimum Abort Range (MAR) (if you look this up you should find out quite a bit on it), so you know when to defend, so you do not panic from shots taken hopelessly out of range. I did write a BVR manual for my squadron, its probably goes into too much detail in a lot of places, and the overall organization is a bit lacking, but maybe youll get something from it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ytii9JWW2LXyAXDMYs6BiLfJy8K4cB09/view Another great resource is RL documentation such as NATOPS P-825: https://www.cnatra.navy.mil/local/docs/pat-pubs/P-825.pdf. While some of the specifics arent gonna work in DCS, the basic concepts are going to remain the same. Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) Don't panic when they shoot first. Their missile fired at max range has low probability of kill. And their longest range missile in DCS I believe is Semi Active so they have to keep their nose on you and can only guide one at a time. Just get in closer, launch 120's in TWS, do a split S and get out. This is old, I think on FC1 but I believe most of it still applies. This video series is where I learned F15. Also, get Tacview and study what they did and what you did. Edited June 18, 2020 by Taz1004 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pello86 Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 Thanks for all the information guys. I really appreciate the help. Rig: |(CPU)Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-9700K (3.6GHz) 12MB Cache|ASUS® ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING|32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)|11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080TI|2TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE|1TB INTEL® 660p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 1800MB/sR | 1800MB/sW)|CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET|Processor Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler w/ PCS Ultra Quiet Fans Thermal Paste||RIFT S VR| TM HOTAS A10 Warthog :joystick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/1965067/ You're welcome. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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