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Old 02-16-2016, 06:17 AM   #21
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I think that with the f18 coming up, I'd rather have a Russian airplane. We are getting at least 4 western aircrafts (2000, viggen, f18, f14 ) let's get something Russian for once
If western aircraft is the problem, lets go east, like the Mitsubishi F-2
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:27 AM   #22
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Lol, I see what you did there
But seriously I hope we'll see AA missiles overhaul to go with those f16/f18
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:32 AM   #23
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I think that with the f18 coming up, I'd rather have a Russian airplane. We are getting at least 4 western aircrafts (2000, viggen, f18, f14 ) let's get something Russian for once
Again and again this is asked. Russian planes are just in general harder to get information on. It's that simple. I agree with you. I fly Western aircraft and would love all Western aircraft in the game, but i want the other side to have aircraft to fly too (makes for more fun). But yeah, I've been around here a long time, and if you look hard enough, you'll see some ED officials bringing up how hard information on Russian aircraft is to come by (legally).
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Old 02-16-2016, 07:28 AM   #24
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The thing about the eastern aircraft.

Is that those we could more easily get info about (Mig-23,Mig-27,Su-22 and Su17/22 etc) are all 1970-1980s designs that are less capable then those we have today (i would love a Mig-23 and a Su22 though more then i would a more up to date aircraft)

And if one of those where made ppl would still cry because they want Su-30, Su-35, Su,27SM3 ,Mig-29M ,Mig-29K mig 35 etc.

Because they want something more modern and capable then the current Su-27S and Mig-29A/S.

They want a Eastern Multi role aircraft like the F/A 18 thats coming soon.

But all of those aircraft are much newer and are highley classified making it VERY hard to get all the needed info about them.

And thats a reason why i would prefer having a Cold war Scenario with pre 1990s aircraft since most of those aircraft can be realisticly made.

While u will have as much luck making a Su-35 as you would have making a F-22...

Its VERY unlikley to happen in the near future.

Ppl want "balance" but the easiest way to do that would be to reduce the western aircraft to pre 90s configs (no AMRAAM) and not to try to add more russian (eastern) aircraft with active missiles.
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Old 02-16-2016, 07:43 AM   #25
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To hell with balance, gimme a Mig-23!!!

Seriously been enjoying MP so much since owning the Mig-21. A Mig-23 or a Su-22 would be insta buys.
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Old 02-16-2016, 08:34 AM   #26
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Does the F-16 do anything that the F/A-18 can't? I don't know much about either, but I thought they were multi-role fighters with fairly similar capabilities.
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Old 02-16-2016, 08:40 AM   #27
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Does the F-16 do anything that the F/A-18 can't? I don't know much about either, but I thought they were multi-role fighters with fairly similar capabilities.
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We will get the F/A-18 Hornet soon which can do everything an F-16 can do (except Mach 2) plus the addition of naval ops. So I don't see the need for an F-16 in DCS at all!
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Old 02-16-2016, 09:08 AM   #28
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yeah, the F/A-18C is slower and less maneuverable (depending on many factors though), but it can land on an aircraft carrier.

To me it is mainly a matter of preference between USAF and USN/USMC, and perhaps nostalgia for one of the planes, or maybe if you REALLY like to be refuelled with a boom...
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Old 02-16-2016, 09:23 AM   #29
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To hell with balance, gimme a Mig-23!!!

Seriously been enjoying MP so much since owning the Mig-21. A Mig-23 or a Su-22 would be insta buys.
I would totally love those aircraft in the game.

But as Mattebubben said, you'll have alot more vocal people from the MP side complaining about the imbalance which is rightfully so. It'll be a one sided seal clubbing quakefest.

IMO? I wish more developers would aim for earlier aircraft on the Western side aswell as Eastern aircraft of the same time period (while leaving ED to decide on the much more modern aircraft). Maybe one day ED can nail some info for a fully fledged updated Su-27 Variant.
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Old 02-16-2016, 09:32 AM   #30
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Concerning classified: for me it is completely satisfying if for these specicific functions the aircraft will get imaginary (and possibly not existing) functions, which are a bit looking like these which we expect that these aircraft have.
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