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Old 07-14-2017, 04:06 PM   #841
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The cannon is exactly the same except the barrels are 400mm longer, and the fire rate is slower with options to change Rounds per Minute.
So it is not the same if it is 40cm longer, as mentioned. I understand that physically, the firing mechanism is identical, but this is quite a different beast in performance. If we can agree on that, then sure.
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:06 PM   #842
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And the characteristics on the two aircraft to employ them are entirely different as shown above by Vampyre.

It looks like we'll be using low rate mode to engage point targets, and high rate mode to let-er-rip on tightly packed troop concentrations etc .
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:12 PM   #843
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it 40 cm longer because that put it in front of the gunner.

who used to get concussion even through the armoured tub and glass.. when they fired the normal one..

so they had to put the muzzle in front of the gunner.
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:14 PM   #844
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it 40 cm longer because that put it in front of the gunner.

who used to get concussion even through the armoured tub and glass.. when they fired the normal one..

so they had to put the muzzle in front of the gunner.
It was made longer to avoid the shockwave translate onto the airframe and affect it adversely. Never have I heard about WSO getting shock, any source for that?
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:19 PM   #845
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It was made longer to avoid the shockwave translate onto the airframe and affect it adversely. Never have I heard about WSO getting shock, any source for that?
The issues are mentioned in this one, starting around the 40:20 mark.
Wether it's accurate or not though, who knows.

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Old 07-14-2017, 04:21 PM   #846
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40cm of barrel is quite a lot. The muzzle velocity should be higher too. Does anyone have numbers?
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:32 PM   #847
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The cannon is exactly the same except the barrels are 400mm longer, and the fire rate is slower with options to change Rounds per Minute.
You are saying it is exactly the same and, in the same sentence, say that it is not the same. LOL! While the two weapons are similar the version you are comparing it to is still not mounted on a helicopter which makes quite a bit of difference.

Anyway, my original statement was to highlight the fact that I am excited to get the P version vice the version with the jam prone 12.7mm rotary machine gun version.
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:33 PM   #848
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I think the muzzle velocity fot the GSH-30K is around 940 mps.

Rate of fire from 300 RPM in low to 2000-26000 RPM in High
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:33 PM   #849
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gryazev-Shipunov_GSh-30-2

According to Wikipedia it's a 70m/s (250kph) difference... which in practice will be pretty much nullified by the fact that your aircraft is going several hundred kph slower in the first place.
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:36 PM   #850
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wings of russia mi-24 attack helicopter - the warrior
wings of russia mi-24 attack helicopter - the story continues.

chuck links the wings of russia mi-8 vids in his guide and the two for the mi-24 were on next.

lots of old russians talking russian with translation.

they were very good.
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