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Old 01-09-2018, 03:37 PM   #121
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Do you think I can replace the Mi-8?
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Old 01-09-2018, 04:30 PM   #122
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The Mi-24 will have the same effect on rotary-wings community as the F-18 on the fixed wings one. it will be a game changer. Suddenly, you have one awesome platform that can do just about everything the other ones can do together and so everybody will want to fly it. I am expecting to see a massive shift of activity towards this platform only and for a prolonged period of time before anyone will want to come back to an Mi8 or simple aircraft like the Huey.
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Old 01-09-2018, 04:47 PM   #123
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Cant await it, to ride the MI-24 trough the Valley of the new Caucasus Map...
MI-24 has a limited Cargo Carry capacity and Weight lifting compare to the MI-8...
But should be given a formable strike Packed with MI-8 carry Cargo and the MI-24 give Fire Support..
Like both aircraft, would not regret to buy the MI-8 again, and both Aircraft have there special task, MI-24 doesn't replace the MI-8 job..
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Old 01-10-2018, 04:40 AM   #124
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Cant await it, to ride the MI-24 trough the Valley of the new Caucasus Map...
MI-24 has a limited Cargo Carry capacity and Weight lifting compare to the MI-8...
But should be given a formable strike Packed with MI-8 carry Cargo and the MI-24 give Fire Support..
Like both aircraft, would not regret to buy the MI-8 again, and both Aircraft have there special task, MI-24 doesn't replace the MI-8 job..
Like you said, they were designed to compliment each-other. Doing that very well.
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Old 01-10-2018, 05:43 AM   #125
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No one mention the AUTO HOVER capability of this aircraft... I looked this documentary after the F/A-18 update and now I am hyped about this helicopter, no more meh for me! Take a look at it, it is very interesting and show similarity (and difference of course) between Mil helicopter.
https://youtu.be/1NSb-YttCgU?t=35m35s
If you dont want to look at it entirely, there is a short segment about Mi-24P at 40m30s
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Old 01-10-2018, 09:50 AM   #126
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The Mi-24 will have the same effect on rotary-wings community as the F-18 on the fixed wings one. it will be a game changer. Suddenly, you have one awesome platform that can do just about everything the other ones can do together and so everybody will want to fly it. I am expecting to see a massive shift of activity towards this platform only and for a prolonged period of time before anyone will want to come back to an Mi8 or simple aircraft like the Huey.
I am incredibly excited about the Mi-24!!! Totally iconic helicopter and this is the one module I am looking forward to more than the F-18 and every other fixed-wing announced COMBINED!

But curious: why do you say it is a multi-capable multi-role helo over the existing ones combined? Surely the current KA-50 can do it all, and perhaps more?
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I am incredibly excited about the Mi-24!!! Totally iconic helicopter and this is the one module I am looking forward to more than the F-18 and every other fixed-wing announced COMBINED!

But curious: why do you say it is a multi-capable multi-role helo over the existing ones combined? Surely the current KA-50 can do it all, and perhaps more?
The -24 apart from being a gunship/attack helicopter also has limited troop carrying capacity. Something the single-seat Ka-50 doesn't have
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Old 01-10-2018, 01:41 PM   #129
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I am incredibly excited about the Mi-24!!! Totally iconic helicopter and this is the one module I am looking forward to more than the F-18 and every other fixed-wing announced COMBINED!

But curious: why do you say it is a multi-capable multi-role helo over the existing ones combined? Surely the current KA-50 can do it all, and perhaps more?
+1. I'm also looking forward for Mi-24 but I don't see how it'll be a game changer. While a western attack helicopter would be a game changer and as far iconic the Mi-24 is with generally analog avionics, the KA-50 is much more capable platform.

The answer to the Mi-24 replacing Mi-8 question is actually not so obvious if you look from DCS perspective - which is not always reflecting the real world.
For the most part how the MP missions in DCS are currently setup, the lift capability and hull capacity of the helicopters quite often does not matter. Through the CTLD script, Huey and Mi-8 are able to take the same ammount cargo, squizing an SA-6 into internal cargo compartnment plus taking a group of soldiers next to it. In other words, much depends on the mission designers which currently have tools to design the missions either towards "balancing" or by taking an realistic approach.
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+1. I'm also looking forward for Mi-24 but I don't see how it'll be a game changer. While a western attack helicopter would be a game changer and as far iconic the Mi-24 is with generally analog avionics, the KA-50 is much more capable platform.

The answer to the Mi-24 replacing Mi-8 question is actually not so obvious if you look from DCS perspective - which is not always reflecting the real world.
For the most part how the MP missions in DCS are currently setup, the lift capability and hull capacity of the helicopters quite often does not matter. Through the CTLD script, Huey and Mi-8 are able to take the same ammount cargo, squizing an SA-6 into internal cargo compartnment plus taking a group of soldiers next to it. In other words, much depends on the mission designers which currently have tools to design the missions either towards "balancing" or by taking an realistic approach.
I am working on a Lua scripting library that (among other things) allows for different capacities for different helos (e.g., MI-8 can carry 20-24 troops, while Huey can carry 10-14), as well as different types for different helos (e.g., Mi-8 can carry small jeep). I think it will be straightforward to incorporate into either CTLD or MOOSE.

The Mi-24 cannot replace the Mi-8. Either in reality, in the sim, or in my heart! These two are "sisters" meant to be used in concert.
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