[REPORTED]Flexible sight conflict with TrackIR - can't use

imacken · September 16, 2017

Just bought Huey, and trying out the training missions.

My problem is that there is some sort of conflict with TrackIR and the flexible sight that makes the whole thing unusable for me at the moment.

When I press 'M', the sight comes down, but the whole sight just starts shaking, and it is impossible to move it at all. Direction keys don't work, mouse, nothing.

So, I tried disconnecting all controllers, and that made no difference. I then started DCS without TrackIR running, and sure enough, the sight was steady and I was able to change its direction using the keypad direction keys.

I've looked at the controls, and there are only the 6 'normal' TrackIR entries, so no sign of a conflict there.

Can anyone help with this at all?

Edited September 20, 2017 by BIGNEWY
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imacken · September 16, 2017

Here's a video of the issue http://www.igmack.co.uk/huey_sight.mp4

escaner · September 16, 2017

Did you check the "UH-1H Gunner" axes besides "UH-1H Sim"?

imacken · September 17, 2017

Thanks, s good suggestion, but unfortunately, there was nothing there that affected this issue.

I hope there might be some help here, but if not, do I contact ED support through the usual channel, or is it Belsimtek?

imacken · September 17, 2017

Ok, I know that works, but why should we have to do that? I mean the rear gunners work ok with head tracking and using the mouse to aim the gun.

Also, there is still the weird jumping around as shown in my video above.

Edited September 17, 2017 by imacken

escaner · September 17, 2017

Some time ago there was an option under Special to select whether or not to aim with Trackir. I cannot find that option anymore, but I still have it in my config file. You can try to manually add it. It is in the file C:\Users\<username>\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Config\options.lua. Of course, backup the file before modifying it.

       ["UH-1H"] = {
           ["CPLocalList"] = "vivid colors",
           ["UH1HCockpitShake"] = 50,
           ["UHRudderTrimmer"] = false,
[color=Blue]             [b]["UHTrackIRAiming"] = true[/b],[/color]
           ["UHTrimmingMethod"] = 0,
           ["altUHTrimmingMethod"] = false,
           ["autoPilot"] = true,
           ["weapTooltips"] = false,
       },

imacken · September 17, 2017

Thanks for that. It does work, so that is good. I'm going to play around with this tomorrow, as I am struggling with various aspects of this, but I'll do some more research and post tomorrow.

Thanks again.

imacken · September 17, 2017

Error

Chic · September 18, 2017

You can map Trac IR Aiming (and Pause Trac IR for that matter) to a hotas button or VoiceAttack command.

Works for me.

WildBillKelsoe · September 19, 2017

the question is, why did they remove the optional TrackIR aiming?

imacken · September 19, 2017

You can map Trac IR Aiming (and Pause Trac IR for that matter) to a hotas button or VoiceAttack command.
Works for me.

Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me. DCS just won't allow me to assign a HOTAS button to the RShift+T.

Having said that, I'm still trying to work out what is going on with aiming with the sight. The RShift+T doesn't actually seem to do anything. The sight aims with TrackIR as default unless I pause head tracking, then the mouse works the sight.

I'm also confused about why there is so much need for alt-c to be used.

I guess no one can help with the issue I showed in the video I linked to, so I'll contact ED support on that.

Chic · September 19, 2017

I guess no one can help with the issue I showed in the video I linked to, so I'll contact ED support on that.

I've watched your video. I have experienced the exact same issue. The fix is a single setting change. Sorry I can't recall what it was and have not been able to get to my sim to revisit it. Gonna keep it in mind cuz it's buggin me.

imacken · September 19, 2017

I've watched your video. I have experienced the exact same issue. The fix is a single setting change. Sorry I can't recall what it was and have not been able to get to my sim to revisit it. Gonna keep it in mind cuz it's buggin me.

If you could remember, I wolud really appreciate it. It's driving me crazy!

BIGNEWY · September 20, 2017

Hi all

I have reported this issue for the dev team

thanks

imacken · September 20, 2017

Thanks BIGNEWY, it would also be useful to report the (easily fixed) issue with the weapons training mission as mentioned in my other recent thread here.

Basically, the instructor asks you to go to the right gunner, but it’s impossible as Belsimtek have not put gunners in the payload. It’s necessary to alter the mission in Mission Editor.

Been that way for years now, apparently.

imacken · March 4, 2018

Hi all

I have reported this issue for the dev team

thanks

6 months after your post, and still nothing has been done about this. I had hopes that it would be fixed in 2.5, but no!

Laithar · March 5, 2018

Me too!!

Holton181 · September 12, 2018

Old thread, but here's my findings about this issue:

The cause of this problem isn't a conflict between Flexisight and TrackIR per se, but between TrackIR and the mouse. The thing is, the default aiming mode when activating the Flexisight or going into the door gunner position is to move the Flexisight and guns with the mouse and look around with the TrackIR, head and aiming separated. Hitting [RShift +T] will disable the mouse and fix the Flexisight/gun to your nose so you are supposed to look through the sight/gun all the time, unless you physically move your body sideways/vertically.

This all works as intended for the door gunners, but not the Flexiblesight. In the default aiming method for the Flexiblesight, while moving your head (neck) also the sight will move. That is not how it is supposed to work. The gun doesn't move when in the door gunners position. This causing a conflict between the TrackIR and the mouse, who is supposed to be in charge for the sight, making it jerk around. Hitting [RShift + T] the aiming works as intended though.

A side note:

Unfortunately the 'TrackIR Aiming On/Off' [RShift + T] isn't possible to assign to a joystick button per default, but I created a small MOD where among other things I enabled it for joysticks. For anyone interested it can be found here.

A second side note:

Unfortunately the suggested MOD in post #7 doesn't work, the added line will be removed immediately when starting DCS. So no way at the moment to make the 'TrackIR Aiming On/Off' [RShift + T] persisting between sessions.

Edited September 12, 2018 by Holton181

rge75 · September 12, 2018

Good summary. As discussed in this thread:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3623112#post3623112

mouse view won't work anymore in F2 after you use RShift-F2 though.

Holton181 · September 12, 2018

RShift-F2

I assume you mean RShift-T?

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