Svsmokey Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 So i've been agonising over Rift S vs Index . One factor is the Oculus software , which has been generally considered the standard . But Zuckerberg is pissing me off ! Forced updates , with no apparent ability to revert , and of no benefit to my headset or Windows version . Today i dealt with yet another update interrupting my DCS session ,waiting a half hour to update , troubleshooting the audio and the loss of the Oculus debug tool , finding the new file , and experiencing a degradation of performance when i did run the new version of Debug , in which the "disable adaptive graphics performance" doesn't seem to work . So i have two questions : Does Steam VR force updates ? Can you revert if necessary ? 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 So i've been agonising over Rift S vs Index . One factor is the Oculus software , which has been generally considered the standard . But Zuckerberg is pissing me off ! Forced updates , with no apparent ability to revert , and of no benefit to my headset or Windows version . Today i dealt with yet another update interrupting my DCS session ,waiting a half hour to update , troubleshooting the audio and the loss of the Oculus debug tool , finding the new file , and experiencing a degradation of performance when i did run the new version of Debug , in which the "disable adaptive graphics performance" doesn't seem to work . So i have two questions : Does Steam VR force updates ? Can you revert if necessary ? Oculus has been doing it this way for quite some time, at least as long as I have had mine which I got in Jan 2017. Yes it would be nice to give an option to update rather than a forced update, guess they have their reasons behind this. I have been real lucky though, never had an instance so far with an update messing up my Rift or Rift S <knocking on wood>. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted June 23, 2019 Author Share Posted June 23, 2019 Glad you are having good luck with your 2nd Rift S Don . I am frustrated because i had three days of glorious performance with my CV1 before another forced update broke the debug tool . An S would doubtless be kinder to my 1070 , but if Steam VR updates are not forced , or can be reverted , I'll be giving the Index a long look . If i may ask , what are your impressions of the Rift S's build quality ? Another concern.... 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Glad you are having good luck with your 2nd Rift S Don . I am frustrated because i had three days of glorious performance with my CV1 before another forced update broke the debug tool . An S would doubtless be kinder to my 1070 , but if Steam VR updates are not forced , or can be reverted , I'll be giving the Index a long look . If i may ask , what are your impressions of the Rift S's build quality ? Another concern.... Not as robust as Rift CV1- both headset and Touch controllers, but seems to be sufficient at least so far. I can not make a comparison with other brands as I have not owned any of them so far. Have you tried a repair of the Oculus software to fix the debug tool issue? Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted June 23, 2019 Author Share Posted June 23, 2019 Not as robust as Rift CV1- both headset and Touch controllers, but seems to be sufficient at least so far. I can not make a comparison with other brands as I have not owned any of them so far. Have you tried a repair of the Oculus software to fix the debug tool issue? Hmmm...i have not . Thanks ! 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted June 24, 2019 Author Share Posted June 24, 2019 Thanks again , Don , for the suggestion . Repair hung up on the download , but a complete re-install worked . Performance is back :) 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Thanks again , Don , for the suggestion . Repair hung up on the download , but a complete re-install worked . Performance is back :) :thumbup: Good deal! Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong05 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Steam also forces updates. However, pending your steam setting for updates, it won't do it mid game. Not sure if there is a roll back capability. 5800X3d, 32GB DDR4@3400, 6800 xt, Reverb G2, Gunfighter/TMWH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 Thanks , fingers crossed for ability to revert... 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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