ED Team NineLine Posted August 30, 2018 ED Team Share Posted August 30, 2018 Dear Eagle Dynamics, UltraMFCD is not dead. However, and understandably - I would be too - Eagle Dynamics aren't too pleased with some random bloke coming along and tugging at the brain stem of their custom rendering engine. Pleas have been made - up to and including healthy offers where potential revenue sharing is concerned - in order to resolve the perceived brain-stem-tugging conflict. I would like nothing more than NOT to have to fiddle around with DCS's internal plumbing in order to make uMFCD do what it does. Yet here we are, years in to the "we can't stop each other" conflict, and no closer to amicable resolution. People want UltraMFCD on account of its obviously beneficial functionality. I want to provide UltraMFCD users with the functionality they desire. And they constantly request more and more and more. Is there any way, means or method by which we can meet in the middle? Best regards, Sgt_Baker If you are discussing this with ED, then I suggest you continue to do so however you have been, making a public post isn't how you bridge gaps, I am sure you will get a lot of support from those that enjoy your program, but to be honest I havent heard anything new from you for a long time, and havent heard anything about you being in continued discussions for years. So please, keep this with whomever you are contacting at ED, and dont make it a public event. If you want, let me know who you are working with and I will check into it... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt_Baker Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 If you are discussing this with ED, then I suggest you continue to do so however you have been, making a public post isn't how you bridge gaps, I am sure you will get a lot of support from those that enjoy your program, but to be honest I havent heard anything new from you for a long time, and havent heard anything about you being in continued discussions for years. So please, keep this with whomever you are contacting at ED, and dont make it a public event. If you want, let me know who you are working with and I will check into it... Hi NineLine, Sorry. I didn't mean to post this publicly. I'll get back to my contact within Eagle Dynamics at the earliest opportunity. They will certainly address the issue with immediate effect. Furthermore, congratulations for your service to dimwittery. If only more moderators were as vocal as you. --B UltraMFCD 3.0 in the works. https://ultramfcd.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holton181 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Firs, welcome back SGT_Baker! Nice to see you around again. Now, regarding this: People want UltraMFCD on account of its obviously beneficial functionality. I want to provide UltraMFCD users with the functionality they desire. And they constantly request more and more and more. Is there any way, means or method by which we can meet in the middle? I might have misunderstood you slightly, but if this is somehow directed at us users I would like to say UltraMFCD has already reached the level of completion I could ask for, possibly just some support for more modules. Not a big thing for me and take whatever time you need. It have become basically a must-have for my Shark usage. I sincerely hope you and other in the same position will find a reasonable solution with ED, it is my belief they have everything to win on dedicated add-on developers like yourself. Good Luck! Helicopters and Viggen DCS 1.5.7 and OpenBeta Win7 Pro 64bit i7-3820 3.60GHz P9X79 Pro 32GB GTX 670 2GB VG278H + a Dell PFT Lynx TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt_Baker Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 Firs, welcome back SGT_Baker! Nice to see you around again. Now, regarding this: I might have misunderstood you slightly, but if this is somehow directed at us users I would like to say UltraMFCD has already reached the level of completion I could ask for, possibly just some support for more modules. Not a big thing for me and take whatever time you need. It have become basically a must-have for my Shark usage. I sincerely hope you and other in the same position will find a reasonable solution with ED, it is my belief they have everything to win on dedicated add-on developers like yourself. Good Luck! No, not directed at users. If anything, UltraMFCD was developed with a view to keeping you lot out of my hair. Low-maintenance, if you follow. Notice that it's the only "mod" not to arrive with the ominous "back up everything in case things go wrong" disclaimer. Why? Because it doesn't change anything in terms of physical storage or files associated with DCS. But now I'm just stroking my own ego. UltraMFCD 3.0 in the works. https://ultramfcd.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt_Baker Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) It presently costs $1672.45 (USD) to purchase the entire DCS ecosystem. And that's not including money spent on associated hardware, such as joysticks, pedals, or full-on custom cockpits (which I will get back to in a moment). If this were an open-source title and I were merely some random bloke demanding changes, I would understand ED's dismissive approach. This is not the case. People pay more to use DCS, and by a large margin, than 99.9999% of all other recreational software. Meanwhile people are getting their knickers in a twist regarding EA's latest DLC debacle on a $60 game. I have recently stated that ED are continually dismissive of any notion whereby UltraMFCD might transition from being non-cooperative to cooperative in its relationship with the DCS system. But here's the thing! Due to UltraMFCD's function, I happen to be able to collect metrics. Its users have purchased well in excess of $1,000,000 worth of software from ED. This thread is absolute evidence that a literal megabuck doesn't matter in terms of requests for change. UltraMFCD is used by a wide variety of people, but the most interesting of their cases concerns the simpit builders. They spend $10,000s ON TOP of whatever DCS costs in order to create as faithful a sim experience as they can. Continued refusal to entertain UltraMFCD as a going concern is no only a middle-finger to me. It is a middle-finger to a userbase that has already furnished ED with seven-figure sums in USD. Nostravia! Edited August 30, 2018 by Sgt_Baker UltraMFCD 3.0 in the works. https://ultramfcd.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simicro Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Hi Sgt_Baker, I'm discovering your nice utility. The dragged/resized MFCDs are very neat :thumbup: I don't have the A-10 but when I do, I'll get your software. I don't quite understand the nature of your discussion with ED: technical, financial, both? If you are looking for a financial reward for your work, which is legitimate IMHO, you could consider donations from users, or maybe go payware even if the last option would not please the user base. - Tony - . My Reviews: Oilfield Campaign - Argo Campaign l My Mission: Huey Ramp Start Voice-Over New! . Microsoft Force Feedback 2 base modded with a CH Fighterstick - VKB Sim T-Rudder Mk.IV Pedals . Intel i5 4670K @4.3 GHz - 32 Gb DDR3 - MSI GTX 1080 - ASUS PG278QR 27" 2K @165 Hz G-Sync Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamscanner Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I'd love to see UMFCD built into DCS. Same with Simple Radio and voice attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt_Baker Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share Posted September 1, 2018 I would like to get rid of the super-hacky parts of the system. It would literally take Eagle Dynamics half an afternoon. I should know! I actually did it! I don't quite understand the nature of your discussion with ED: technical, financial, both? If you are looking for a financial reward for your work, which is legitimate IMHO, you could consider donations from users, or maybe go payware even if the last option would not please the user base. UltraMFCD 3.0 in the works. https://ultramfcd.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt_Baker Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share Posted September 1, 2018 I'd love to see UMFCD built into DCS. Same with Simple Radio and voice attack. What's stopping them? Other than prior art. UltraMFCD 3.0 in the works. https://ultramfcd.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator-nz Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I wish that would be great !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simicro Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Sgt_Baker, Thanks for the clarification for me. I understand now. Me too, I think that this utility/functionality should be built in DCS for all (complex) planes (with many MFD). Otherwise, if the utility is to be separate, it would be great if ED can help to simplify your task. - Tony - . My Reviews: Oilfield Campaign - Argo Campaign l My Mission: Huey Ramp Start Voice-Over New! . Microsoft Force Feedback 2 base modded with a CH Fighterstick - VKB Sim T-Rudder Mk.IV Pedals . Intel i5 4670K @4.3 GHz - 32 Gb DDR3 - MSI GTX 1080 - ASUS PG278QR 27" 2K @165 Hz G-Sync Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverDhill Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Will version 2.7.0 work with the latest DCS 2.9.4.76? I mostly want the F15 radar and rwr on a second monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FZG_Immel Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 make it available for the F7A-18C and I will purchase ! [sIGPIC]https://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic70550_3.gif[/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-H - SSD M.2 EVO 970 - Intel I9 @5.0ghz - 32gb DDR4 4000 - EVGA 3090 - Cougar FSSB + Virpil WRBRD + Hornet Stick - Thrustmaster TPR Pedal + WinWing MIP + Orion + TO and CO pannels - Track IR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverDhill Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 This is obviously dead. Too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidy Dave Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 This really is an amazing tool and I was extremely impressed with the way it just worked out of the box. Thanks for all the hard work you put in Sgt_Baker. I'll keep my eyes peeled for future versions and hopefully you can get it to support the newest releases at some stage in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXFIRE TWOONE Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 When this tool was working it was such an immersive improvement for me having a display light up behind my cougar MFD's. Joy:):) I would be welling to pay for it. We need it. It's much cheaper than 2 to three LCD display and much less the work. ED, this was one of the best apps ever. Let's get it done. Thank you I love my K-50 A-10C F-15C F/A 18C------------ Intel core I9 10900K 3.7 ghz Asrock Z490 Extreme4 G-SKill Ripjaws V 32GB Cooler Master 120m GTX 980 Superclocked Corsair AX850w psu Samsung 1 T M.2 2 X 850 ssd's Sony 48 in HD TV Trackir 5 Hotas Warthog F/A-18C Hornet Grip Logitech Pro Peddles Windows 10 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNCfan Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 It is a shame this software was abandoned, I am another one that would gladly pay something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Лесник Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Can I make birch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostya Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 constantly the program on version 2.5.4 takes off, there is any decision??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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