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How many of you regularly fly medium/heavy bombers?


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How many of you regularly fly medium/heavy bombers?  

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  1. 1. How many of you regularly fly medium/heavy bombers?

    • Almost all the time
      13
    • Most of the time
      19
    • As often as other types (fighters, fighter/bombers, attack aircraft)
      68
    • Rarely/ when something new comes out
      54
    • Never
      29


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I am not sure this is the right place for this poll, but I guess that I will get biggest response from WW2 flight sim fans here.

 

I was surprised by the enthusiasm of people to get the flyable b-17 as soon as possible, because while it is a famous and beautiful plane, me and a couple of friends that fly flight sims with agree that we will be mostly seeing it through our Revi gunsight :D. We mostly fly fighters, and sometimes ground attack aircraft like the sturmovik.

 

While we will probably end up buying it and flying it a bit for novelty value, it will probably end up collecting dust in the hangar together with those heavy bombers in RoF, and mediums in CLOD.

 

Anyways, that is one opinion, I would like to see what other flyers think.

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Personally, is prefer a light/medium bomber. Based on what I flew in IL-2, I'd get more out of something like a HE-111 or a Ju-88 because of their versatility. Flying level for a few hours and lining up a single stick of bombs, not really my cup of tea.

 

I appreciate that the B-17 Is iconic and it would float a lot of people's boats, but it leaves me cold compared to the other stretch goal aircraft.

 

 

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Does the Consolidated Catalina count as a bomber? I also really like the He 219 "Uhu" from Aircraft Factory (A2A) and am still looking for a good Ju 88. Have yet to try the A2A B-17 with Accusim, but if DCS: WWII 1944 gets one I will need to check it out.

What do you think about Junkers from Cliffs of Dover?

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What do you think about Junkers from Cliffs of Dover?
It's nice and cosy, but the flight model is not my thing. It feels off and handles too easily (too light or over-powered).

The altitude/speed-graphs prove me wrong at higher altitude (5300 m), where it's actually under-powered.


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Personally, is prefer a light/medium bomber. Based on what I flew in IL-2, I'd get more out of something like a HE-111 or a Ju-88 because of their versatility. Flying level for a few hours and lining up a single stick of bombs, not really my cup of tea.

 

I appreciate that the B-17 Is iconic and it would float a lot of people's boats, but it leaves me cold compared to the other stretch goal aircraft.

 

 

I don't envy Ilya, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.

 

You get 2 or 3 of your buddies all flying in formation, plus the fighter jocks giving escort, it really does throw you over the top on immersion though. Flying those beasts in formation was not easy.

 

I agree with you in a lone flight. But there is nothing like being part of a well executed attack with fighters and bombers working together. But to each their own.

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As often as other types. I prefer medium bombers but I will take the B-17, B-24 and B-29 out for a spin as well. I learned how to level bomb with the B-25J and I have always wanted to fly a B-26B Marauder in il-2. I know that there was a modded B-26 built but I fly almost exclusively online (except when I'm training on new A/C) and it was never included in any of the mod packs. The A-26B being offered in the stretch goals is the solid nose version with the eight .50's... I wonder how much harder a glass nosed version would be to make? I'd like to see a Mosquito B mk IV bomber as well.

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Personally, is prefer a light/medium bomber. Based on what I flew in IL-2, I'd get more out of something like a HE-111 or a Ju-88 because of their versatility. Flying level for a few hours and lining up a single stick of bombs, not really my cup of tea.

 

I appreciate that the B-17 Is iconic and it would float a lot of people's boats, but it leaves me cold compared to the other stretch goal aircraft.

 

 

I don't envy Ilya, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.

 

Understandable, everyone has their own thing. Even in this niche market. But flying level for some time in a B-17 isn't as boring as you might expect. There was a guy down my parent's street who flew B-17s during WWII, I didn't get to personally talk with him but based on what was relayed to me by others he had quite harrowing experiences - likely as much as any fighter pilot. If DCS 1944 has the ability to recreate that, I imagine it would be quite a scene.

 

Fighter zipping around you, some putting holes in you others trying to put holes in those fighters. Your gunners are going to town and shouting out fighter positions over teamspeak. But you are more focused on trying to keep formation with the other bombers while you keep losing engines from the flak you took earlier, and wondering if you will be able to make the target let alone RTB. Then your copilot mentions something about a fire...

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You could get a similar "immersion" in any well flown team scenario.

 

Honestly, in this sort of thing, no matter how well made the experience, I think most people gravitate to the sort of aircraft that featured in the stories you heard and the films you saw as a kid, Americans tend to hear of the daylight raids, the Eight AF, Mephis Belle etc, Brits tend to fancy themselves as some sort of Douglas Bader etc (you see where I'm going). Personally I have no real emotional connection to the B-17 raids, but give me a Mossie, a precision target and the theme from 633 Squadron and I'm set..... :)

 

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You could get a similar "immersion" in any well flown team scenario.

 

Honestly, in this sort of thing, no matter how well made the experience, I think most people gravitate to the sort of aircraft that featured in the stories you heard and the films you saw as a kid, Americans tend to hear of the daylight raids, the Eight AF, Mephis Belle etc, Brits tend to fancy themselves as some sort of Douglas Bader etc (you see where I'm going). Personally I have no real emotional connection to the B-17 raids, but give me a Mossie, a precision target and the theme from 633 Squadron and I'm set..... :)

 

I get what you are saying 100% Penguin:) It definitely comes down to the experiences and focus of what each country dealt with. Battle of Britain for the UK folks, 8th Air Force/Midway for yanks like me, and for our Russian friends the Eastern Front. Here's hoping we'll eventually see all the necessary aircraft/theaters for all these battles.

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You could get a similar "immersion" in any well flown team scenario.

 

Honestly, in this sort of thing, no matter how well made the experience, I think most people gravitate to the sort of aircraft that featured in the stories you heard and the films you saw as a kid, Americans tend to hear of the daylight raids, the Eight AF, Mephis Belle etc, Brits tend to fancy themselves as some sort of Douglas Bader etc (you see where I'm going). Personally I have no real emotional connection to the B-17 raids, but give me a Mossie, a precision target and the theme from 633 Squadron and I'm set..... :)

 

 

Spot on.

 

I guess it also depends on what type of flight simmer you are. I'm just a fan of military aircraft and would enjoy the feeling of flight of just about anything post WWI. :D

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well, up until now, i definitely prefered to see a B17 through my REVI as well...but with the possibility of a DCS fidelity B17, or pretty much any Bomber, i would definitely fly them as well...

what i really would like to see in a DCS WWII Bomber, is a multi crew cockpit option...not only that i have an AI co pilot on my side, but also the possibility to have a human controlled co-pilot.this would be just awesome.

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I'm just trying to think of any sims I've flown that have a 'Heavy Bomber'. In Il2 46 I did fly the Mod B29 but I doubt skip bombing really counts.

 

For a long time I played B17-II the Mighty Eight. That was a lot of fun but a very different sort of gaming.

 

Recently I've been flying the Blenhiem in COD, but I guess that be more of a light bomber/attack plane. I guess I fly more in a tactical rather than a strategic role.

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My boxed edition of BoB2:WoV included the "wings of power B-17" for MSFS. I deleted BoB2:WoV from my HDD years ago, but I still have the WoP B-17 installed :)

 

P.S. the only real WWII era aircraft I've ever flown in is a B-17G. If there's only one you can afford to go for a ride in, that's The One.

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I've always been a mudmover, from my old IL2 1946 days although my fav a/c has always been the Tempest. However, most of the time I always flew bombers, usually medium (A20, B25, etc) because the majority of the time you need to actually destroy the targets which 'wanna be ace' fighter pilots couldn't do single-handed. Funny enough...I used to get lots of kills in a bomber purely because noobs would fly straight up behind a bomber and start blasting only for my rear gunner to knock em down.

 

You MUST have atleast one medium or heavy bomber for ongoing MP play. It adds a whole new dimension to just PvP death match type servers.

 

The one thing I'm hoping for is a good bombsight plus the ability to put on autopilot.

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I still remember playing the B-17 Flying Fortress The Mighty Eighth going over long runs over Germany facing incredible amounts of flak mixed with German fighters. You could man the different positions, take care of the wounded crewmembers, and even when you finished your bombing run there's the long ride home. Usually you had quite a bit of damage from either the flak or fighters so getting home wasn't easy with one or two engines out or your flaps shot out. Just sitting in formation watching the planes getting shot up and taking damage around you was quite different than flying in the fighters seat. Of course the best part was if you laid your .50 cals into some fighter coming in at the wrong angle.

 

It was probably one of deadliest jobs of the war outside the U-boat service or combat line infantry units.

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I'm the odd sort. I'm a Yank (French Canadian parents) who prefers British bombing exploits. Fighters never meant much to me--so much so that I wouldn't even want to pilot the bombers I prefer. I've flown in RL, but I love the notion of being a crewman on a well-oiled human crew. I would be happy being a gunner my crew can count on. For me, it is sad that B17 II was a "different" game, and that its MP support was never realized. To me, that is exactly the kind of game I would stick with if it existed. The "lone wolf" accomplishments mean nothing to me. I feel this about all games. SH3-5: why not have 4-man human crews coordinating the sub's kill? In FSPs with heavy role-playing elements (ala FC3), having a human buddy during the campaign would have been phenomenal.

 

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