My Bug List so far

On the Instant Action mission, for air to ground, after expending all rocket and MK82 ammunition and jettisoning the rocket pods, with about 30% fuel I was able to pull +10Gs and -6Gs instantaneously with no ill effects... didn't even black out or red out straight away.

-The AI F-5 can shoot aim-9 head on and they track, while they are only read aspect for players.

More description on this one is needed.

I put a better explanation in the original Post. Tell me if further explanation is needed. :thumbup:

Not a bug. See attach.

Are you sure? The wording is terrible. "selection not required" then "if selected". Which is it?!

Are you sure? The wording is terrible. "selection not required" then "if selected". Which is it?!

I see the same. Also i put a description of how i expirienced it irl in original post.

Strange thing with missile tone is that when both missiles are loaded and turned off on the armarment panel and the sight switch is set to GUNS/MISSILE and CAMERA, then the missile tone is present.

selecting both misslies and then shooting one of them of and then turn off the other misslie makes the tone go silent until the missile is switched on again.

I guess that the tone should be present either allways when the the GUNS/MISSILE and CAMERA switch is On regardless if there are 2 or only one missile present and regardless whether any missle is selected - or the tone should only be present when the GUNS/MISSILE and CAMERA switch is on and any of the misslies are selected (Both, Left or right).

Currently there is no logic behind when the missile tone is present (at least I cannot see it).

FinnJ

Strange thing with missile tone is that when both missiles are loaded and turned off on the armarment panel and the sight switch is set to GUNS/MISSILE and CAMERA, then the missile tone is present.

selecting both misslies and then shooting one of them of and then turn off the other misslie makes the tone go silent until the missile is switched on again.

 

I guess that the tone should be present either allways when the the GUNS/MISSILE and CAMERA switch is On regardless if there are 2 or only one missile present and regardless whether any missle is selected - or the tone should only be present when the GUNS/MISSILE and CAMERA switch is on and any of the misslies are selected (Both, Left or right).

 

Currently there is no logic behind when the missile tone is present (at least I cannot see it).

 

FinnJ

I get it now. According to BillyCrusher's post, the real F-5 manual says that the left missile will always give a tone even if not selected, but the right one won't. This could be understood that way and maybe BST deduced from that that it actually has to be this way.

From my experience these manuals can be confusing in the shortened language that they use and if not read in the right context. And I experienced this matter different when doing maintenance checks on the missile tone, I only heared the tone after switching either the left or the right or both of the stations 1 and 7 up. So in my opinion the tone should not be audible only after putting GUNS/MISSILE and CAMERA on, but after the station is selected.

I get it now. According to BillyCrusher's post, the real F-5 manual says that the left missile will always give a tone even if not selected, but the right one won't. This could be understood that way and maybe BST deduced from that that it actually has to be this way.

 

From my experience these manuals can be confusing in the shortened language that they use and if not read in the right context. And I experienced this matter different when doing maintenance checks on the missile tone, I only heared the tone after switching either the left or the right or both of the stations 1 and 7 up. So in my opinion the tone should not be audible only after putting GUNS/MISSILE and CAMERA on, but after the station is selected.

This just makes more sense too. Why would you design it so it makes a tone all of the time, even when you weren't using that weapon?

Sometimes the left and right indication for the fuel gauge and the fuel flow needles are not visible when the eng instruments lights are turned on. Is this supposed to be like that when you turn on the eng instruments lights the indications won't be visible ?

See another fragment of T.O. (in attach).

Again left AIM-9 tone is specified separately. So, obviously left and right missile audio tones work in different way. In the first fragment you can see that selection does not required for left missile but required for right one, ie when both swithes are ON or both are OFF or only left is ON then left missile tone is heard. When only right selector is ON the right missile tone is heard.

No, the paragraph that you linked says that external stores switch does not affect audio tone, not that the tone is audible if missiles are not selected.

So we have a confusing and unclear manual versus a word of a guy who worked on the real thing. Interesting. :)

Hi all !

I saw something that seems to be wrong to me but I don't fine any proof of how it works irl.

Altimeter drums numbers seems to rotate in an inverted way: When I gain altitude, higher numbers come from down, whereas it should feels more logical that they came from the top.

But maybe I am wrong...

EDIT: I WAS WRONG, after looking a real pic altimeter's drums are correct. Sorry.

Yes, but the first fragment says it very clear. I don't see any confusing or unclear things there: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2852567&postcount=34

That one may also mean that you don't have to explicitly select the left missile in case more than one station is active. A bit weird way to put it, but I've seen more confusing sentences in various manuals.

This seems like a fairly good thread for minor/edge case bug reports, so:

1. F-5E's set as "start from ramp" with "uncontrolled" ticked will play their engine start sound effect at mission start, despite the fact they're not yet starting. They will also play it when actually sent the start command. (This has been present since the AI F-5E-3 was added.)
   
2. It appears that if you take damage to your fuel tanks that causes all fuel to leak out of one set of tanks (easy to do :)) then land and request rearm/refuel, the refueling will never complete and the ground crew will not carry out further requests. Fuel goes in, fuel goes out... I'm also not sure it refuels properly after repairing either, but I need to properly test that to confirm.
   

OK, last night I was a bit lazy and decided to do the auto start cheat to get up more quickly and just fly a bit before crashing for the night. I noticed that the canopy was closed at the start of the sequence and then toward the end of the auto start it was opened again. Seems like it should have only been closed toward the end? Not sure if it's a bug or not but thought I'd mention it anyway.

I don't know if anyone else is experiencing this, but it seems the UHF ADF direction finding doesn't work. When tuned to air or ground frequencies, it doesn't matter. Mode set to ADF, channel source is set to Preset 1 with AI wingman at 305MHz occupying Preset 1 in ME. Nav Mode set to DF. Nothing on the HSI and no Morse code heard (I don't know for certain if you receive Morse code when navigating to a UHF source, but you do for TACAN and I know that works). The full manual didn't provide a wealth of knowledge beyond those requirements unfortunately, so I'm not sure if I'm missing something or if it is indeed bugged. In which case I would love to see this fixed as this adds a unique depth to my enjoyment of the F-5E.

Edit: Screenshot included :)

I don't know if anyone else is experiencing this, but it seems the UHF ADF direction finding doesn't work. When tuned to air or ground frequencies, it doesn't matter. Mode set to ADF, channel source is set to Preset 1 with AI wingman at 305MHz occupying Preset 1 in ME. Nav Mode set to DF. Nothing on the HSI and no Morse code heard (I don't know for certain if you receive Morse code when navigating to a UHF source, but you do for TACAN and I know that works). The full manual didn't provide a wealth of knowledge beyond those requirements unfortunately, so I'm not sure if I'm missing something or if it is indeed bugged. In which case I would love to see this fixed as this adds a unique depth to my enjoyment of the F-5E.

 

Edit: Screenshot included :)

Well, is your wingman actually transmitting? Contact him to make him broadcast a reply.

I get it now. According to BillyCrusher's post, the real F-5 manual says that the left missile will always give a tone even if not selected, but the right one won't. This could be understood that way and maybe BST deduced from that that it actually has to be this way.

 

From my experience these manuals can be confusing in the shortened language that they use and if not read in the right context. And I experienced this matter different when doing maintenance checks on the missile tone, I only heared the tone after switching either the left or the right or both of the stations 1 and 7 up. So in my opinion the tone should not be audible only after putting GUNS/MISSILE and CAMERA on, but after the station is selected.

You seem to be right.

The left AIM-9 will always trigger the tone when the GUNS/MISSILE and CAMERA switch is on regardless whether the missile is selcted or not.

FinnJ

No pilot body?

Is the pilot body not here yet? There's a "show pilot body" option in the controls options, but that doesn't seem to work. Using rift CV1. Great stuff so far!

Don't know if it has been mentioned or not but when doing the instant action cold start, prior to engine start up, in most aircraft I turn on the interior lights. When I turn on the Engine Instruments rotary in the F-5 it seems to turn on the interior flood light instead.