Easiest way to get air to air radar back to 'default'?

What's the easiest way to get the radar back to it's 'default' state after going into a ACM mode?

Switching off air to air mode doesn't work, but I presume there is a way to do this without resetting all bars, ranges, etc.

Either unbox ACM on the Radar page or press the NWS/Undesignate button on the stick.

That doesn't work. The radar starts at 1 bar, 140 degrees. Pressing undesignate or unboxing ACM brings it to 4 bar and 80 degrees.

You have to set it manually to those settings. That's why I prefer the Viper and it's Missile/Dogfight override modes, which the Hornet lacks. Each time I switch modes in the Hornet I then have to dial in my preferred settings manually again, unlike in the Viper, which saves my settings for each mode.

Strange, isn't it. I mean, they are not 'my' settings, they are the default startup ones. You would think it would reset to those, not something different.

The Hornet supports different radar settings for each A2A weapon. You can only go into ACM by being into AA mode. You can only go into AA mode by selecting an A2A weapon with the stick or by pressing the A/A button in the cockpit, which selects the AIM-9 automatically.

The AIM-9 defaults to a 4B, 80 degree azimuth pattern. That's why, when you exited ACM, you were at this pattern. Your 1B, 140 degree from previously was overwritten.

You can choose your settings for each A2A missile by selecting it, choosing bars, azimuth, timeout etc and then pressing SET. After that, every time you return to that particular weapon, you'll have these settings. So you can set up 1B, 140 azimuth scan for the AIM-9 (or all A2A weapons) if you want and save it.

Thanks for that. I understand that. What I was wondering was how to go back to the default mode that is set when you switch the radar on. Seems odd to me that it would not reset to that rather than the last weapon selected mode when A2A mode is switched off.

and then pressing SET.

Huh, I wasn't aware of this SET function. I will have to check it out, thanks! :thumbup:

Thanks for that. I understand that. What I was wondering was how to go back to the default mode that is set when you switch the radar on. Seems odd to me that it would not reset to that rather than the last weapon selected mode when A2A mode is switched off.

Thanks a lot for your help.

The Hornet supports different radar settings for each A2A weapon. You can only go into ACM by being into AA mode. You can only go into AA mode by selecting an A2A weapon with the stick or by pressing the A/A button in the cockpit, which selects the AIM-9 automatically.

 

The AIM-9 defaults to a 4B, 80 degree azimuth pattern. That's why, when you exited ACM, you were at this pattern. Your 1B, 140 degree from previously was overwritten.

 

You can choose your settings for each A2A missile by selecting it, choosing bars, azimuth, timeout etc and then pressing SET. After that, every time you return to that particular weapon, you'll have these settings. So you can set up 1B, 140 azimuth scan for the AIM-9 (or all A2A weapons) if you want and save it.

I didn't know this and it is extremely useful, thanks

I also thought pressing the undesignate button twice returned you to RWS mode if you were in ACM mode. This, however, hasn't worked for me since the last update.

Just following up on this a bit.

I'm confused by the SET function. If I SET a weapon in RWS to say, 1 bar and 140 degrees, if I go to another weapon the bar/azimuth changes and if I then go back to the original weapon, it retains the parameters I SET. That is all good.

However, if I change a weapon to TWS (from RWS) the parameters change but when I go back to TWS, the parameters do not return to what was SET for that weapon.

How is this supposed to work?

I believe the radar "SET" function is one of those that can be pre-programmed by the pilot and entered into the MC by the data cartridge (which we do not currently have).

The set function is really helpful and I use it a lot, i have my preferred setting for Sidewinders and for Amraams, so when i exit ACM mode through the NWS button i normally go to Amraam which is my preferred scan pattern.

Just following up on this a bit.

I'm confused by the SET function. If I SET a weapon in RWS to say, 1 bar and 140 degrees, if I go to another weapon the bar/azimuth changes and if I then go back to the original weapon, it retains the parameters I SET. That is all good.

However, if I change a weapon to TWS (from RWS) the parameters change but when I go back to TWS, the parameters do not return to what was SET for that weapon.

How is this supposed to work?

That seems to be a separate issue, with RWS not returning to its own pattern once you exit TWS. Again, I don't know how it works in the real jet, but I'd imagine that since you're exiting TWS, the azimuth and bar constraints should be lifted and you should return to what RWS previously used. So you have a point here.

A workaround is to switch back to RWS, switch to another A2A weapon and then back to your previous one, to bring up its SET pattern.

That seems to be a separate issue, with RWS not returning to its own pattern once you exit TWS. Again, I don't know how it works in the real jet, but I'd imagine that since you're exiting TWS, the azimuth and bar constraints should be lifted and you should return to what RWS previously used. So you have a point here.

 

A workaround is to switch back to RWS, switch to another A2A weapon and then back to your previous one, to bring up its SET pattern.

Thanks again. Should this be reported as a bug do you think?

Thanks again. Should this be reported as a bug do you think?