ED Team NineLine Posted August 7, 2014 Author ED Team Share Posted August 7, 2014 But, anyway, I understood their reasons and offered a special light version. :) Yes, and cant thank BTD enough for making the extra effort :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACADEMIC Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 But, anyway, I understood their reasons and offered a special light version. :) Thanks Yo-Yo. As a native German speaker well familar with the cultural context of the German speaking world I still strongly recommend ED to pay attention to the heightened sensitivies there and make the 'light' version the default one with the next release. Drama version can be optional. Forum polls don't reflect the reach of your product. MAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I think these kind of discussions in plain english have the potential to create an issue where else none would be. Before buying a DCS module representing a german ww2 warbird no one will check if the music does not have some sensitive (for some) words running barely distinguishing in the background. My opinion is that some people have a hidden satisfaction in blowing air in the ash. Maybe some sparks rise... Maybe a fire... 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NakedSquirrel Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I originally had music turned off because it was obnoxiously loud with one of the early re-installs. I didn't realize each plane had its own piece written for it. I just turned music back on, very nice stuff! Modules: A10C, AV8, M2000C, AJS-37, MiG-21, MiG-19, MiG-15, F86F, F5E, F14A/B, F16C, F18C, P51, P47, Spitfire IX, Bf109K, Fw190-D, UH-1, Ka-50, SA342 Gazelle, Mi8, Christian Eagle II, CA, FC3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I don't care either way. I just can't change from the F86 music. Or stop my feet tapping when it plays. Yepp! :thumbup: Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 to me, I say keep it. But give others the options to switch out if they wish... It just adds to the whole Dora, 1944/45 era... kinda sets me up for what's coming. Just like the Sabre. Listen to that, and I'm in the 50's... MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Rider Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 lordy, its another storm in a D cup... the theme is fine :thumbup: City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 For some it is, for some it isn't. We just can't tell from here, since most people playing DCS are not active in the forums. That's one of the reasons why I brought the topic up. I'm sure ED doesn't want a Nazi discussion), and since even I noticed it right from the start and wasn't quite happy (and I am not too sensitive compared to lots of people in Europe, especially in Germany and Eastern Europe) I thought it would be a good idea to tell ED it might be a negative point for some. I was not sure whether they were aware in the first place. I think the guys reacted very well. Sithspawn did a great job creating the poll so we can see whether the active forums guys care, and BTD already released a version for those who do, which is great! The last question for ED to answer is which version should be default. If you ask the active forums users, it should stay the way it is now, because they either prefer the one with speech or don't care, and also because people reading these forums who don't like it (including me) can download the altered version from this thread. So everyone is happy. What we don't know is the people who don't read or write here. They don't even know the altered version exists. So they might be sad about it and don't know they can change it, so they have to turn the music off and miss all the great rest of the music that is played. So if we assume that most of the enthusiasts who really want the speech in are here, and most who don't like it are probably not here, the option with the least potential for conflict may be to offer the "dirty version" as a download and make the clean one the default. I thnik that's the way other companies normally release stuff that might be sensitive for some of their community. ED might choose differently, it's up to them of course. Another possibility is to let the player choose in the options. The pure existence of the "dirty version" might anger a few people, but I would say those are really really rare and we can't help them anyway, so we could ignore them I guess. That option would mean work for the programmers though (a checkbox in the FW-190 options screen or something like that), so I would probably vote against that because ED programmers have enough on their plate already. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo38 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) For Aginor and others who dont like speech FX: I've made "clean" version of this music. You can download it from our site Thank you very much! I am not offended by the speech, but I do prefer the track with just the music. I'm very fond of the stuff you've done for DCS. Don't ever stop making it! : ) [Addendum: sorry, folks, was a thread "necro"--didn't mean to revive old discussion.] Edited December 4, 2015 by Echo38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiramisu Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I love the historical context in the music. One voice seems to say "Links um, hierum, hier ist Nagellack". :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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