Shrike88 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) Looking forwards to testing and using DTOS functions on the UFC, hopefully can start building some more intricate and in depth weapons profiles and flight plans, bringing back days of old BMS using DED and Weapons Delivery Planner Profiles. Is there any information on setting up the Mrad / and how to impliment the DTOS features on the AS page ? HUD Symbology is that similar to the F-16 ? OA1 / OA1 , action points etc ? Or is it simple AUTO modes type CCRP settings ? Diagrams avail using MRad Not sure exactly or how to use that with weaponeering I Saw the walkthrough (Thanks UBoats ! ) set DTOS/DIR DEP in DATA -> AS page, default 120 mrad (~ 6 degrees) to fpm; set HUD as SOI; set bomb mode to DTOS in SMS page; set other bomb params in SMS page; use HUD DTOS cross to designate for WCS, (press and hold weapon launch key when DTOS cross on target) follow CCRP bombing solution cue, wait bombs auto launch However just wondering difference between DTOS/ DIR DEP, and exactly what it produces when augmenting these inputs. Guessing MRAD is loft or impact angle ? Thanks ! Edited May 20, 2020 by Shrike88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Excited to try this. Where is that walkthrough? New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxwxl Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 IIRC, DTOS works quite like the combination of F-16 DTOS and the SU27 CCIP->CCRP process , the DATA page can define the relative position of the aimming cross. After the attack point is set, it works as the AUTO mode. DIR mode is like the manual mode, no WCS support, release data is pre calculated. Deka Ironwork Tester Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[VFA-106] Glacier Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 After the attack point is set, it works as the AUTO mode. Yeah, that's what I'm seeing with my tests, but I'm not getting any flight path cue like I would in Auto mode. I'm getting the pickle cue tone thing, but that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastRifleRound Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Can confirm. Couple bugs: 1. QTY is ignored. Attached track shows QTY of 2 for Mk82, but the whole stick is dropped in DTOSS 2. No AUTO symbology, only release audio cue, no other cues (loft angle, auto pipper) is present.JF17 DTOS.trk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blinky.ben Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Please forgive me but I can’t find anywhere what DTOS actually is. Except a few different opinions. Can some please explain what this feature is? Thanks heaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Dive toss, you can find out more in BMS F-16 manuals or other F-16 resources Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0op8ack Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 fixed: CCRP line and cue is incorrect disabled in DTOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[VFA-106] Glacier Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Loopback, can you confirm that the DTOS function is intended for tossing bombs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0op8ack Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 It can be used for TOSS. you need no deep dive or TDC operations, it's useful when time is critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrike88 Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 Anyone luck DTOS with mk83s? Can’t seem to get them to release. Also how to designate a WP if say we wanted to toss Over WP36 (pp1) . Does it auto select, we just need to wait for the fix? Couldn’t get mine to release using that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxwxl Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1.Select DTOS on SMS 2.Set DATA->AS->DTOS if required. 3.Select HUD has SOI(should be auto select in later patch) 4.Fly your plane, place the aimming cross onto your intended target, and press WPN RELEASE(not the TDC depress). 5.WCS will set CCRP release for the aimming point, drop the bomb just like in the AUTO mode(Bomb fall line will be added in later patch) . Deka Ironwork Tester Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrike88 Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 1.Select DTOS on SMS 2.Set DATA->AS->DTOS if required. 3.Select HUD has SOI(should be auto select in later patch) 4.Fly your plane, place the aimming cross onto your intended target, and press WPN RELEASE(not the TDC depress). 5.WCS will set CCRP release for the aimming point, drop the bomb just like in the AUTO mode(Bomb fall line will be added in later patch) . Correct I did this however with pitch up, it won't release the mk83. Would it be because the weapon release parameter limitations for ccip and ccrp were copied over to DTOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxwxl Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Correct I did this however with pitch up, it won't release the mk83. Would it be because the weapon release parameter limitations for ccip and ccrp were copied over to DTOS? It should be the same limitation of AUTO. Bomb fall line will be added in later patch, for now , listen to the release cue and hold wpn release button. If you have too much deviation, Wcs may not allow the release. Deka Ironwork Tester Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrike88 Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 It should be the same limitation of AUTO. Bomb fall line will be added in later patch, for now , listen to the release cue and hold wpn release button. If you have too much deviation, Wcs may not allow the release. Will Test further and upload Trk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrike88 Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) @uboats was the BFL ever added to DTOS correctly ? Is this mode considered finished ? Also Loft/TOSS and VIP ? Just curious if these are considered finished, or going to be implemented for the module ? Thanks Edited September 18, 2020 by Shrike88 Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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