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Btw, now that i can see SA page enemy simbols on my monitor... who on earth decided those where good bogey simbols? XD, there are 3 aircraft and you cant discern nothing there... i hope you can change this somehow in the SA setting page

 

Edit: After looking at it more closely, i've managed to understand which of the "legs" is the bandit bearing, maybe is not so bad after all


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Btw, now that i can see SA page enemy simbols on my monitor... who on earth decided those where good bogey simbols? XD, there are 3 aircraft and you cant discern nothing there... i hope you can change this somehow in the SA setting page

 

Edit: After looking at it more closely, i've managed to understand which of the "legs" is the bandit bearing, maybe is not so bad after all

Those are standardized NATO symbols for naval usage, called NTDS-symbols (Naval tactical Data System).

 

Here's an overview from a guide for another game (CMANO, great game ;)) that makes heavy use of them:

 

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Source: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1081327870

 

They get an aditional line if they are moving that points in the direction of their movement. The length of that line also shows the speed they are moving at.

 

I guess the green circles in Wags picture are the own ships (C for cruiser?), as the DDI can't display blue clolor.


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Just wondering what is the difference between Hostile and Unfriendly? If you are facing orange fixed wing aircraft, you see this?:

 

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Just wondering what is the difference between Hostile and Unfriendly? If you are facing orange fixed wing aircraft, you see this?:

 

Sorry, it's Friday..:D

Unfriendly means, they are potential enemies that are not (yet) clear to be engaged.

 

Take for example the enforcement of the no fly zones in Iraq (Operations Northern Watch and Southern Watch). Iraqi Air Force jets were declared unfriendly as long as they were flying between the NFZs. When they crossed the NFZ they became hostile, meaning they were then targets to enage.

 

 

Edit: Just realized the gif you posted. I guess that also counts as an unfriendly action :lol:


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Unfriendly means, they are potential enemies that are not (yet) clear to be engaged.

 

Take for example the enforcement of the no fly zones in Iraq (Operations Northern Watch and Southern Watch). Iraqi Air Force jets were declared unfriendly as long as they were flying between the NFZs. When they crossed the NFZ they became hostile, meaning they were then targets to enage.

 

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QuiGon - those look similar but they're not quite right. Yes, the symbols in Wags' screenshot are hostile air but the match is coincidence. Note that the circles are not friendly ships, but friendly aircraft that are sharing sensor data on channel "C." There are probably something like 100 different possible symbol combinations. It's not likely that DCS will feature them all, because the underlying infrastructure that contributes a lot of that information to Link-16 will not exist in DCS.

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QuiGon - those look similar but they're not quite right. Yes, the symbols in Wags' screenshot are hostile air but the match is coincidence. Note that the circles are not friendly ships, but friendly aircraft that are sharing sensor data on channel "C." There are probably something like 100 different possible symbol combinations. It's not likely that DCS will feature them all, because the underlying infrastructure that contributes a lot of that information to Link-16 will not exist in DCS.

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Just wondering what is the difference between Hostile and Unfriendly?

 

For "Unfriendly" read "Suspect" in old speak. I am guessing, but in the complex Air environment over Iraq & Syria today, when the mission is to target ISIS ground targets, then a classification was needed for Russian & Syrian aircraft.

In some previous conflicts, depending on your nationality, declaring a contact as "hostile" was ALSO giving permission to fire ("weapons Free"). very, very ROE dependant!!!

Again, just a guess by me, but classifying Russian & Syrian aircraft as "unfriendly" , in THIS circumstance works........but on dodgy radio, voice only circuits, would you really want 2 different classifications that sound almost the same bar the pre-fix??????

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What happened to Engineer #3 in january? https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3731139#post3731139

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Work is ongoing on the Latent Track While Scan (LTWS) and Track While Scan (TWS) air-to-air radar modes. This will in turn tie into the D/L.
But not a single progress report during january. ED, why aren't we kept updated on the progress? Please tell us what Engineer #3 worked on during the past 4 weeks.
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But not a single progress report during january. ED, why aren't we kept updated on the progress? Please tell us what Engineer #3 worked on during the past 4 weeks.

 

Most likely the IFF Logic used by the D/L along with other items related to the Datalink, it's where most of the effort is going right now. The TWS is also a very important system that is necessary in some ways, since only tracks can be datalinked. While you don't have to be in LTWS for those informations be acquired and formated I think, the creation of tracks needs to be coded anyways for the D/L to not be useless :).


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"D/L" ?

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"creation of tracks" ? That's already in DCS for Su-27 datalink afaik

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ah ok wasn't sure, as he wrote "... used by the D/L along with other items related to the Datalink, ..." (he used both versions in same sentence, a bit unusual, so not sure if it's really what he meant)

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Anyone know what the update-rate is on the F/A-18C SA-page/datalink? every second, or even every 500 ms?

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Anyone know what the update-rate is on the F/A-18C SA-page/datalink? every second, or even every 500 ms?

 

Probably more like 5-10 seconds, maybe more. If you urgently need your Datalink to help you find an aircraft that is less then that amount of time from you, you're doing something wrong or not using the correct procedures.


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But not a single progress report during january. ED, why aren't we kept updated on the progress? Please tell us what Engineer #3 worked on during the past 4 weeks.

 

When there is something to share, Wags is more than generous with the information. Complaining about it won't make it happen faster.

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Wasn't meant as complaining, was (intended as) a statement, neutral question and a request.

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Here we go. We are getting it this month.

It looks like we will be studying very much to digest this thing

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